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From: Roman Mamedov <rm@romanrm.net>
To: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net>
Cc: linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Questions on incremental backups
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2014 19:05:24 +0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140718190524.143439e1@natsu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140718053422.78784982@ws>

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On Fri, 18 Jul 2014 05:34:22 -0700
Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net> wrote:

> Effectively, admins can choose NOCOW XOR frequent-snapshotting, altho
> the fact that snapshots stop at subvolume borders can be used as a
> partial workaround, by putting NOCOW files on a dedicated partition and
> not snapshotting it, exactly as I mentioned.

You can't backup running VM images and datafiles of an active database using
"traditional" backup techniques such as file copy or rsync. The tail of a file
you're copying for a backup will be long-inconsistent with the overall state
or the head of the file when you started copying. Snapshots on the other hand
are atomic, and can very much be used to create a static copy of the files for
the purposes of compressing/copying away somewhere. And at worst, the
"restored from backup" state of such a backed up VM or DB will be equivalent
to it just having had a power-loss. Journalling FSes and databases can deal
with that with no major problems.

So just exercise moderation, snapshot e.g. once an hour or even a day, the
result will still be better than not using NOCOW, and will deliver most of the
benefits you get by snapshotting.

Another option is to snapshot->backup->delete snapshot.

-- 
With respect,
Roman

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  reply	other threads:[~2014-07-18 13:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-07-17 20:12 Questions on incremental backups Sam Bull
2014-07-18  4:35 ` Russell Coker
2014-07-18  7:36   ` Bob Williams
2014-07-18 10:45   ` Duncan
2014-07-18 10:55     ` Roman Mamedov
     [not found]     ` <TmvW1o01t4NXQGV01mvYsU>
2014-07-18 12:34       ` Duncan
2014-07-18 13:05         ` Roman Mamedov [this message]
2014-07-18 14:28           ` Imran Geriskovan
2014-07-18 12:56   ` Sam Bull
2014-07-18 13:40     ` Russell Coker
2014-07-18 14:27       ` Mike Hartman
2014-07-20 16:56         ` Sam Bull
2014-07-18 17:31       ` Daniel Mizyrycki

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