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From: Liu Bo <bo.li.liu@oracle.com>
To: "Holger Hoffstätte" <holger.hoffstaette@googlemail.com>
Cc: linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] Btrfs: add sha256 checksum option
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2014 18:28:07 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20141125102806.GB23574@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <pan.2014.11.24.08.23.25@googlemail.com>

On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 08:23:25AM +0000, Holger Hoffstätte wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Nov 2014 13:23:05 +0800, Liu Bo wrote:
> 
> > This brings a strong-but-slow checksum algorithm, sha256.
> > 
> > Actually btrfs used sha256 at the early time, but then moved to crc32c for
> > performance purposes.
> > 
> > As crc32c is sort of weak due to its hash collision issue, we need a stronger
> > algorithm as an alternative.
> 
> I'm curious - did you see actual cases where this happened, i.e. a corrupt
> block that would pass crc32 validation? I know some high-integrity use
> cases require a stronger algorithm - just wondering.

Haven't see that so far, but here is a link for crc32c hash collision in
btrfs, http://lwn.net/Articles/529077/, it's not data checksum though,
btrfs's DIR_ITEM also use crc32c hash, if those happen to be data blocks,
something interesting will happen.

> 
> Would there be room for a compromise with e.g. 128 bits?

Yeah, we're good if it's not larger than 256 bits.

> 
> > Users can choose sha256 from mkfs.btrfs via
> > 
> > $ mkfs.btrfs -C 256 /device
> 
> Not sure how others feel about this, but it's probably easier for
> sysadmins to specify the algorithm by name from the set of supported
> ones, similar to how ssh does it ("ssh -C arcfour256").

Urr, my bad, I've made it locally but didn't 'git add' them.

thanks,
-liubo

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-11-25 10:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-11-24  5:23 [RFC PATCH] Btrfs: add sha256 checksum option Liu Bo
2014-11-24  5:23 ` [RFC PATCH] Btrfs-progs: support sha256 checksum algorithm Liu Bo
2014-11-24  8:23 ` [RFC PATCH] Btrfs: add sha256 checksum option Holger Hoffstätte
2014-11-24 18:55   ` Duncan
2014-11-24 19:34     ` John Williams
2014-11-25 10:30       ` Liu Bo
2014-11-25 10:52         ` Daniel Cegiełka
2014-11-25 23:17         ` John Williams
2014-11-26 12:50           ` Holger Hoffstätte
2014-11-26 17:53             ` John Williams
2014-11-25 10:28   ` Liu Bo [this message]
2014-11-24 20:07 ` Chris Mason
2014-11-24 20:58   ` Hugo Mills
2014-11-25  3:04     ` Qu Wenruo
2014-11-25  5:13     ` Zygo Blaxell
2014-11-25 11:30   ` Liu Bo
2014-11-26 13:36     ` Brendan Hide
2014-11-25 16:47   ` David Sterba
2014-11-25 19:45     ` Bardur Arantsson
2014-11-26 13:38     ` Brendan Hide
2014-11-26 13:58       ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2014-12-01 18:37         ` David Sterba
2014-12-01 20:35           ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2014-12-01 20:51             ` John Williams
2014-12-01 23:23               ` Alex Elsayed
2014-12-15 18:47                 ` David Sterba
2014-11-25 16:39 ` David Sterba
2014-11-27  3:52   ` Liu Bo
2014-12-01 18:51     ` David Sterba
2014-11-29 20:38   ` Alex Elsayed
2014-11-29 21:00     ` John Williams
2014-11-29 21:07       ` Alex Elsayed
2014-11-29 21:21         ` John Williams
2014-11-29 21:27           ` Alex Elsayed
2014-12-01 12:39           ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2014-12-01 17:22             ` John Williams
2014-12-01 17:42               ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2014-12-01 17:49                 ` John Williams
2014-12-01 19:28                   ` Alex Elsayed
2014-12-01 19:34                     ` Alex Elsayed
2014-12-01 20:26                       ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2014-12-01 19:58                     ` John Williams
2014-12-01 20:04                       ` Alex Elsayed
2014-12-01 20:08                         ` Alex Elsayed
2014-12-01 20:46                           ` John Williams
2014-12-01 22:56                             ` Alex Elsayed
2014-12-01 23:05                             ` Alex Elsayed
2014-12-01 23:37                               ` John Williams
2014-12-01 23:46                                 ` Alex Elsayed
2014-12-02  0:03                                   ` John Williams
2014-12-02  0:15                                     ` Alex Elsayed
2014-12-02  0:30                                       ` John Williams
2014-12-02  0:34                                         ` Alex Elsayed
2014-12-02  0:11                                   ` John Williams
2014-12-01 23:48                               ` John Williams
2014-12-02  0:06                                 ` Alex Elsayed
2014-12-02  0:10                                   ` Alex Elsayed
2014-12-02  0:16                                   ` John Williams
2014-12-02  0:28       ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2014-12-02  0:43         ` Alex Elsayed
2014-12-02  0:53           ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2014-12-02  1:25             ` Alex Elsayed
2014-12-02  1:32               ` Alex Elsayed
2014-11-30 22:51     ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2014-11-30 22:59     ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2014-11-30 23:05       ` Dimitri John Ledkov
2014-12-01  2:55         ` Christoph Anton Mitterer

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