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From: Zygo Blaxell <ce3g8jdj@umail.furryterror.org>
To: Martin Steigerwald <Martin@lichtvoll.de>
Cc: Hugo Mills <hugo@carfax.org.uk>, Robert White <rwhite@pobox.com>,
	linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: BTRFS free space handling still needs more work: Hangs again (no complete lockups, "just" tasks stuck for some time)
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2015 16:41:36 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150107214136.GD11632@hungrycats.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1499386.KVI6lPzt8j@merkaba>

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On Wed, Jan 07, 2015 at 08:08:50PM +0100, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> Am Dienstag, 6. Januar 2015, 15:03:23 schrieb Zygo Blaxell:
> > ext3 has a related problem when it's nearly full:  it will try to search
> > gigabytes of block allocation bitmaps searching for a free block, which
> > can result in a single 'mkdir' call spending 45 minutes reading a large
> > slow 99.5% full filesystem.
> 
> Ok, thats for bitmap access. Ext4 uses extens. 

...and the problem doesn't happen to the same degree on ext4 as it did
on ext3.

> > So far I've found that problems start when space drops below 1GB free
> > (although it can go as low as 400MB) and problems stop when space gets
> > above 1GB free, even without resizing or balancing the filesystem.
> > I've adjusted free space monitoring thresholds accordingly for now,
> > and it seems to be keeping things working so far.
> 
> Just to see whether we are on the same terms: You talk about space that BTRFS 
> has not yet reserved for chunks, i.e. the difference between size and used in 
> btrfs fi sh, right?

The number I look at for this issue is statvfs() f_bavail (i.e. the
"Available" column of /bin/df).

Before the empty-chunk-deallocation code, most of my filesystems would
quickly reach a steady state where all space is allocated to chunks,
and they stay that way unless I have to downsize them.

Now there is free (non-chunk) space on most of my filesystems.  I'll try
monitoring btrfs fi df and btrfs fi show under the failing conditions
and see if there are interesting correlations.


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  reply	other threads:[~2015-01-07 21:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-12-26 13:37 BTRFS free space handling still needs more work: Hangs again Martin Steigerwald
2014-12-26 14:20 ` Martin Steigerwald
2014-12-26 14:41   ` Martin Steigerwald
2014-12-27  3:33     ` Duncan
2014-12-26 15:59 ` Martin Steigerwald
2014-12-27  4:26   ` Duncan
2014-12-26 22:48 ` Robert White
2014-12-27  5:54   ` Duncan
2014-12-27  9:01   ` Martin Steigerwald
2014-12-27  9:30     ` Hugo Mills
2014-12-27 10:54       ` Martin Steigerwald
2014-12-27 11:52         ` Robert White
2014-12-27 13:16           ` Martin Steigerwald
2014-12-27 13:49             ` Robert White
2014-12-27 14:06               ` Martin Steigerwald
2014-12-27 14:00             ` Robert White
2014-12-27 14:14               ` Martin Steigerwald
2014-12-27 14:21                 ` Martin Steigerwald
2014-12-27 15:14                   ` Robert White
2014-12-27 16:01                     ` Martin Steigerwald
2014-12-28  0:25                       ` Robert White
2014-12-28  1:01                         ` Bardur Arantsson
2014-12-28  4:03                           ` Robert White
2014-12-28 12:03                             ` Martin Steigerwald
2014-12-28 17:04                               ` Patrik Lundquist
2014-12-29 10:14                                 ` Martin Steigerwald
2014-12-28 12:07                             ` Martin Steigerwald
2014-12-28 14:52                               ` Robert White
2014-12-28 15:42                                 ` Martin Steigerwald
2014-12-28 15:47                                   ` Martin Steigerwald
2014-12-29  0:27                                   ` Robert White
2014-12-29  9:14                                     ` Martin Steigerwald
2014-12-27 16:10                     ` Martin Steigerwald
2014-12-27 14:19               ` Robert White
2014-12-27 11:11       ` Martin Steigerwald
2014-12-27 12:08         ` Robert White
2014-12-27 13:55       ` Martin Steigerwald
2014-12-27 14:54         ` Robert White
2014-12-27 16:26           ` Hugo Mills
2014-12-27 17:11             ` Martin Steigerwald
2014-12-27 17:59               ` Martin Steigerwald
2014-12-28  0:06             ` Robert White
2014-12-28 11:05               ` Martin Steigerwald
2014-12-28 13:00         ` BTRFS free space handling still needs more work: Hangs again (further tests) Martin Steigerwald
2014-12-28 13:40           ` BTRFS free space handling still needs more work: Hangs again (further tests, as close as I dare) Martin Steigerwald
2014-12-28 13:56             ` BTRFS free space handling still needs more work: Hangs again (further tests, as close as I dare, current idea) Martin Steigerwald
2014-12-28 15:00               ` Martin Steigerwald
2014-12-29  9:25               ` Martin Steigerwald
2014-12-27 18:28       ` BTRFS free space handling still needs more work: Hangs again Zygo Blaxell
2014-12-27 18:40         ` Hugo Mills
2014-12-27 19:23           ` BTRFS free space handling still needs more work: Hangs again (no complete lockups, "just" tasks stuck for some time) Martin Steigerwald
2014-12-29  2:07             ` Zygo Blaxell
2014-12-29  9:32               ` Martin Steigerwald
2015-01-06 20:03                 ` Zygo Blaxell
2015-01-07 19:08                   ` Martin Steigerwald
2015-01-07 21:41                     ` Zygo Blaxell [this message]
2015-01-08  5:45                     ` Duncan
2015-01-08 10:18                       ` Martin Steigerwald
2015-01-09  8:25                         ` Duncan

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