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From: "Darrick J. Wong" <darrick.wong@oracle.com>
To: Anna Schumaker <Anna.Schumaker@netapp.com>
Cc: "Chris Mason" <clm@fb.com>,
	"Trond Myklebust" <trond.myklebust@primarydata.com>,
	"Andy Lutomirski" <luto@amacapital.net>,
	"Pádraig Brady" <P@draigbrady.com>,
	"Linux NFS Mailing List" <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Linux btrfs Developers List" <linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Linux FS Devel" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Linux API" <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Zach Brown" <zab@zabbo.net>, "Al Viro" <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	"Michael Kerrisk-manpages" <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>,
	"William Andros Adamson" <andros@netapp.com>,
	"Christoph Hellwig" <hch@infradead.org>,
	Coreutils <coreutils@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 0/8] VFS: In-kernel copy system call
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2015 14:42:10 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150909214210.GC10399@birch.djwong.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55F0997E.1040105@Netapp.com>

On Wed, Sep 09, 2015 at 04:41:34PM -0400, Anna Schumaker wrote:
> On 09/09/2015 04:38 PM, Chris Mason wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 09, 2015 at 04:26:58PM -0400, Trond Myklebust wrote:
> >> On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 4:09 PM, Chris Mason <clm@fb.com> wrote:
> >>> On Tue, Sep 08, 2015 at 04:08:43PM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> >>>> On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 3:39 PM, Darrick J. Wong <darrick.wong@oracle.com> wrote:
> >>>>> On Tue, Sep 08, 2015 at 02:45:39PM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> >>>>>> What I meant by this was: if you ask for "regular copy", you may end
> >>>>>> up with a reflink anyway.  Anyway, how can you reflink a range and
> >>>>>> have the contents *not* be the same?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> reflink forcibly remaps fd_dest's range to fd_src's range.  If they didn't
> >>>>> match before, they will afterwards.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> dedupe remaps fd_dest's range to fd_src's range only if they match, of course.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Perhaps I should have said "...if the contents are the same before the call"?
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Oh, I see.
> >>>>
> >>>> Can we have a clean way to figure out whether two file ranges are the
> >>>> same in a way that allows false negatives?  I.e. return 1 if the
> >>>> ranges are reflinks of each other and 0 if not?  Pretty please?  I've
> >>>> implemented that in the past on btrfs by syncing the ranges and then
> >>>> comparing FIEMAP output, but that's hideous.
> >>>
> >>> I'd almost rather have a separate call, maybe unshare_file_range()?
> >>>
> >>
> >> Doesn't it make more sense to put that functionality in fallocate()?

[slightly off-topic]

How about FALLOC_FL_UNSHARE_RANGE?  I've been looking for a place to land
an unshare op that isn't chattr +C, and fallocate seems like a better fit
anyway.

--D

> > 
> > That works too, I'm just hoping to keep the copy_file_range stuff
> > simple.
> 
> I agree with keeping copy_file_range() simple, especially for the initial
> merge.  Extra stuff can always be added in later :)
> 
> Anna
> 
> > 
> > -chris
> > 
> 
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  reply	other threads:[~2015-09-09 21:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-09-04 20:16 [PATCH v1 0/8] VFS: In-kernel copy system call Anna Schumaker
2015-09-04 20:16 ` [PATCH v1 1/9] vfs: add copy_file_range syscall and vfs helper Anna Schumaker
2015-09-04 21:50   ` Darrick J. Wong
2015-09-04 20:16 ` [PATCH v1 2/8] x86: add sys_copy_file_range to syscall tables Anna Schumaker
2015-09-04 20:16 ` [PATCH v1 3/8] btrfs: add .copy_file_range file operation Anna Schumaker
2015-09-04 21:02   ` Josef Bacik
2015-09-09  8:39   ` David Sterba
2015-09-04 20:16 ` [PATCH v1 4/8] btrfs: Add mountpoint checking during btrfs_copy_file_range Anna Schumaker
2015-09-09  9:18   ` David Sterba
2015-09-09 15:56     ` Anna Schumaker
2015-09-04 20:16 ` [PATCH v1 5/8] vfs: Remove copy_file_range mountpoint checks Anna Schumaker
2015-09-04 20:17 ` [PATCH v1 6/8] vfs: Copy should check len after file open mode Anna Schumaker
2015-09-04 20:17 ` [PATCH v1 7/8] vfs: Copy should use file_out rather than file_in Anna Schumaker
2015-09-04 20:17 ` [PATCH v1 8/8] vfs: Fall back on splice if no copy function defined Anna Schumaker
2015-09-04 21:08   ` Darrick J. Wong
2015-09-08 14:57     ` Anna Schumaker
2015-09-04 20:17 ` [PATCH v1 9/8] copy_file_range.2: New page documenting copy_file_range() Anna Schumaker
2015-09-04 21:38   ` Darrick J. Wong
2015-09-04 22:31     ` Andreas Dilger
2015-09-08 15:05       ` Anna Schumaker
2015-09-08 15:04     ` Anna Schumaker
2015-09-08 20:39       ` Darrick J. Wong
2015-09-09  9:16         ` David Sterba
2015-09-09 11:38         ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-09-09 17:17           ` Darrick J. Wong
2015-09-09 17:31             ` Anna Schumaker
2015-09-09 18:12               ` Darrick J. Wong
2015-09-09 19:25                 ` Anna Schumaker
2015-09-10 15:42             ` David Sterba
2015-09-10 16:43               ` Darrick J. Wong
2015-09-04 22:25 ` [PATCH v1 0/8] VFS: In-kernel copy system call Andreas Dilger
2015-09-05  8:33   ` Al Viro
2015-09-08 15:08     ` Anna Schumaker
2015-09-08 20:45       ` Darrick J. Wong
2015-09-08 20:49         ` Anna Schumaker
2015-09-08 15:07   ` Anna Schumaker
2015-09-08 15:21 ` Pádraig Brady
2015-09-08 18:23   ` Anna Schumaker
2015-09-08 19:10     ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-09-08 20:03       ` Pádraig Brady
2015-09-08 21:29         ` Darrick J. Wong
2015-09-08 21:45           ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-09-08 22:39             ` Darrick J. Wong
2015-09-08 23:08               ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-09-09  1:19                 ` Darrick J. Wong
2015-09-09 20:09                 ` Chris Mason
2015-09-09 20:26                   ` Trond Myklebust
2015-09-09 20:38                     ` Chris Mason
2015-09-09 20:41                       ` Anna Schumaker
2015-09-09 21:42                         ` Darrick J. Wong [this message]
2015-09-09 20:37                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-09-09 20:42                     ` Chris Mason
2015-09-13 23:25                 ` Dave Chinner
2015-09-14 17:53                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-09-09 18:52               ` Anna Schumaker
2015-09-09 21:16                 ` Darrick J. Wong
2015-09-10 15:10                   ` Anna Schumaker
2015-09-10 15:49                     ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-09-10 11:40                 ` Austin S Hemmelgarn

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