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From: Hugo Mills <hugo@carfax.org.uk>
To: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net>
Cc: linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org,
	Incorporeal Waffle <0isavalidnumber@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Btrfs partition gets remounted as read only
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2015 15:05:49 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150921150549.GD5918@carfax.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <pan$28fb6$e21baff8$67f806d3$ecee1b58@cox.net>

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(Adding OP back to cc list -- I know from IRC they're not subscribed
to the list)

On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 03:02:23PM +0000, Duncan wrote:
> Incorporeal Waffle posted on Mon, 21 Sep 2015 14:30:21 +0000 as excerpted:
> 
> > I tried converting my root partition (originally ext4) to btrfs.
> 
> There's some known bugs with btrfs-convert currently, with current or 
> very recent discussion on-list about how to fix it, if you check the 
> archives.
> 
> In the more general case, while the present bugs will no doubt be fixed, 
> I (a user, not a dev) don't recommend using convert, as in the best case, 
> it's a compromise, with better results if you treat the existing ext* as 
> a backup and start with a brand new btrfs using mkfs.btrfs.
> 
> The admin's rule of backups states that if you care about the data, it's 
> backed up, and if it's not backed up, in practice, you're defining the 
> data as not worth the time and resources to back up, any claims to the 
> contrary not withstanding.  (Meanwhile, a would-be backup that hasn't 
> been tested restorable isn't considered a backup, because the backup 
> isn't defined as complete until it is tested.)
> 
> From that perspective, there's little reason to do a filesystem 
> conversion, since if you care about the data, it's backed up and can be 
> restored to a brand new filesystem, with a better layout than a 
> filesystem that started as something else is likely to ever achieve, and 
> if you don't care about the data, then there's no reason not to start out 
> with a clean filesystem in the first place.
> 
> So while having a convert tool is "nice", even when it's working 
> correctly, the best choice is to avoid using it, starting with brand new 
> clean filesystem and copying existing data, if any, into it from backups 
> so it is laid out ideally for the new filesystem, instead of the 
> compromise of trying to work around the location of existing data and 
> metadata, in a layout that should work, granted (and it's definitely a 
> bug that it's not doing so today), but is unlikely to be ideal for a 
> different filesystem than the one it started out as.
> 

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Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-09-21 14:30 Btrfs partition gets remounted as read only Incorporeal Waffle
2015-09-21 14:36 ` Marc MERLIN
2015-09-21 15:02 ` Duncan
2015-09-21 15:05   ` Hugo Mills [this message]

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