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From: Hugo Mills <hugo@carfax.org.uk>
To: dsterba@suse.cz,
	"Holger Hoffstätte" <holger.hoffstaette@googlemail.com>,
	linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] btrfs: Fix no space bug caused by removing bg
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2015 14:36:02 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150922143602.GI5918@carfax.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150922142333.GH12815@twin.jikos.cz>

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On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 04:23:33PM +0200, David Sterba wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 01:41:31PM +0000, Hugo Mills wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 03:36:43PM +0200, Holger Hoffstätte wrote:
> > > On 09/22/15 14:59, Jeff Mahoney wrote:
> > > (snip)
> > > > So if they way we want to prevent the loss of raid type info is by
> > > > maintaining the last block group allocated with that raid type, fine,
> > > > but that's a separate discussion.  Personally, I think keeping 1GB
> > > 
> > > At this point I'm much more surprised to learn that the RAID type can
> > > apparently get "lost" in the first place, and is not persisted
> > > separately. I mean..wat?
> > 
> >    It's always been like that, unfortunately.
> > 
> >    The code tries to use the RAID type that's already present to work
> > out what the next allocation should be. If there aren't any chunks in
> > the FS, the configuration is lost, because it's not stored anywhere
> > else. It's one of the things that tripped me up badly when I was
> > failing to rewrite the chunk allocator last year.
> 
> Yeah, right now there's no persistent default for the allocator. I'm
> still hoping that the object properties will magically solve that.

   There's no obvious place that filesystem-wide properties can be
stored, though. There's a userspace tool to manipulate the few current
FS-wide properties, but that's all special-cased to use the
"historical" ioctls for those properties, with no generalisation of a
property store, or even (IIRC) any external API for them.

   We're nominally using xattrs in the btrfs: namespace on directories
and files, and presumably on the top directory of a subvolume for
subvol-wide properties, but it's not clear where the FS-wide values
should go: in the top directory of subvolid=5 would be confusing,
because then you couldn't separate the properties for *that subvol*
from the ones for the whole FS (say, the default replication policy,
where you might want the top subvol to have different properties from
everything else).

   Hugo.

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  reply	other threads:[~2015-09-22 14:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-09-21 12:59 [PATCH] btrfs: Fix no space bug caused by removing bg Zhao Lei
2015-09-21 13:27 ` Filipe David Manana
2015-09-21 13:37   ` Filipe David Manana
2015-09-22 10:06   ` Zhao Lei
2015-09-22 10:22     ` Filipe David Manana
2015-09-22 11:24       ` Zhao Lei
2015-09-22 12:45         ` Filipe David Manana
2015-09-23  1:59           ` Zhao Lei
2015-09-22 10:22     ` Zhao Lei
2015-09-22 12:59 ` Jeff Mahoney
2015-09-22 13:28   ` Hugo Mills
2015-09-22 13:36   ` Holger Hoffstätte
2015-09-22 13:41     ` Hugo Mills
2015-09-22 14:23       ` David Sterba
2015-09-22 14:36         ` Hugo Mills [this message]
2015-09-22 14:54           ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-09-22 15:39             ` Hugo Mills
2015-09-22 17:32               ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-09-22 17:37                 ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-09-23  4:49                 ` Duncan
2015-09-23 13:28               ` David Sterba
2015-09-23 13:57                 ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-09-23 14:05                 ` Hugo Mills
2015-09-23 13:12           ` David Sterba
2015-09-23 13:19             ` Qu Wenruo
2015-09-23 13:32               ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-09-23 14:00                 ` Qu Wenruo
2015-09-23 17:28                   ` David Sterba
2015-09-23 13:37               ` David Sterba
2015-09-23 13:45               ` Hugo Mills
2015-09-23 13:28             ` Hugo Mills
2015-09-22 16:23     ` Jeff Mahoney
2015-09-23  2:14   ` Zhao Lei

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