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From: Sanidhya Solanki <jpage.lkml@gmail.com>
To: Christoph Anton Mitterer <calestyo@scientia.net>
Cc: linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] BTRFS: Adds an option to select RAID Stripe size
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2015 21:23:43 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151228212343.449c8631@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1451368991.7094.45.camel@scientia.net>

On Tue, 29 Dec 2015 07:03:11 +0100
Christoph Anton Mitterer <calestyo@scientia.net> wrote:

> On Mon, 2015-12-28 at 20:31 -0500, Sanidhya Solanki wrote:
> > What is your experience like about running a production system on
> > what
> > is essentially a beta product? Crashes?
> What do you mean? btrfs? I'm not yet running it in production (there
> was a subthread recently, where I've explained a bit more why).

>From Documentation/filesystems/BTRFS.txt:
Btrfs is under heavy development, and is not suitable for
any uses other than benchmarking and review. The Btrfs disk format is
not yet finalized.

> > Would something like ZFS not be more suited to your environment?
> Well I guess that's my personal political decision... I simply think
> that btrfs should and will be the next gen Linux main filesystem.
> Plus that IIRC zfs-fuse is no unmaintained and linux-zfs not yet part
> of Debian rules it anyway out, as I'd be tool lazy to compile it
> myself (at least for work ;) ).

The kernel module "ZFS on Linux" is still actively developed according
to their repo activity (https://github.com/zfsonlinux/zfs). It is done
by a subcontractor for Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory.
Considering they are still in preparation for their Next Generation
Supercomputer (Summit), we can assume that they will keep financing the
development.

> > Especially as not all disks will be full, and, if a disk was to
> > fail, the entire disk would need to be rebuilt from parity drives
> > (as opposed
> > to ZFS only using the parity data, and not copying empty blocks
> > (another feature that is planned for BTRFS))
> Ah? I thought btrfs would already do that as well?

Not yet. Not according to the source code "todo"s atleast.
Thanks for the information about HW RAID controllers.
> I'm not sure what you mean by "cache"... wouldn't btrfs' CoW mean that
> you "just" copy the data, and once this is done, update the metadata
> and things would be either consistent or they would not (and in case
> of a crash still point to the old, not yet reshaped, data)?
> 
> A special case were of course nodatacow'ed data.... there one may need
> some kind of cache or journal... (see the other thread of mine, where
> I ask for checksumming with no-CoWed data =) ).

I just started working recently on BTRFS, I forgot about the CoW part.

Thanks

  reply	other threads:[~2015-12-29  6:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-12-28 12:24 [PATCH] BTRFS: Adds an option to select RAID Stripe size Sanidhya Solanki
2015-12-28 22:19 ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2015-12-28 20:38   ` Sanidhya Solanki
2015-12-29  1:21     ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2015-12-28 21:43       ` Sanidhya Solanki
2015-12-29  3:42         ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2015-12-29  0:03           ` Sanidhya Solanki
2015-12-29  4:26             ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2015-12-29  1:31               ` Sanidhya Solanki
2015-12-29  6:03                 ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2015-12-29  2:23                   ` Sanidhya Solanki [this message]
2015-12-29 15:32                     ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2015-12-29 16:44                       ` Duncan
2015-12-30  2:56                         ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2015-12-29 18:06               ` David Sterba
2015-12-30 20:00                 ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2015-12-30 21:02                   ` Duncan
2015-12-30 21:13                     ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2016-01-02 11:52                 ` Sanidhya Solanki
2016-01-03  1:37                   ` Qu Wenruo
2016-01-03  2:26                     ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2016-01-05 10:44                       ` David Sterba
2016-01-05 18:48                         ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2016-01-10  3:11                     ` Sanidhya Solanki
2016-01-11  1:29                       ` Qu Wenruo
2016-01-11 15:43                       ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2016-01-11 11:49                         ` Sanidhya Solanki
2016-01-11 15:57                           ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2016-01-11 16:01                             ` Hugo Mills
2016-01-12 12:23                             ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2016-01-12 12:07                               ` Sanidhya Solanki
2015-12-29 13:39 ` David Sterba
2015-12-29 11:15   ` Sanidhya Solanki
2015-12-29 17:06     ` David Sterba
2015-12-29 21:32       ` Sanidhya Solanki
2015-12-30  6:39       ` Sanidhya Solanki
2015-12-30 11:59         ` Qu Wenruo
2015-12-30  9:54           ` Sanidhya Solanki
2015-12-30 14:10             ` Qu Wenruo
2015-12-30 11:15               ` Sanidhya Solanki
2015-12-30 15:58                 ` David Sterba
2015-12-30 21:19                   ` Sanidhya Solanki
2015-12-30 16:17               ` David Sterba
2015-12-30 21:21                 ` Sanidhya Solanki
2016-01-05 10:33                   ` David Sterba
2015-12-31  0:46                 ` Qu Wenruo
2016-01-05 10:16                   ` David Sterba
2015-12-30 19:48               ` Christoph Anton Mitterer

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