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From: Marc Haber <mh+linux-btrfs@zugschlus.de>
To: linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Again, no space left on device while rebalancing and recipe doesnt work
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2016 09:30:43 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160307083043.GA6939@torres.zugschlus.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <pan$1c315$d49e06ee$da97f10b$cb207808@cox.net>

On Sun, Mar 06, 2016 at 06:43:46AM +0000, Duncan wrote:
> Marc Haber posted on Sat, 05 Mar 2016 21:09:09 +0100 as excerpted:
> > On Sat, Mar 05, 2016 at 12:34:09PM -0700, Chris Murphy wrote:
> >> Something is happening with the usage of this file system that's out of
> >> the ordinary. This is the first time I've seen such a large amount of
> >> unused metadata allocation. And then for it not only fail to balance,
> >> but for the allocation amount to increase is a first.
> > 
> > It is just a root filesystem of a workstation running Debian Linux, in
> > daily use, with daily snapshots of the system, and ten-minute-increment
> > snapshots of /home, with no cleanup happening for a few months.
> > 
> >>  So understanding the usage is important to figuring out what's
> >>  happening. I'd file a bug and include as much information on how the
> >>  fs got into this state as possible. And also if possible make a
> >>  btrfs-image using the proper flags to blot out the filenames for
> >>  privacy.
> 
> Now you're homing in on what I picked up on.  There's something very 
> funky about that metadata, 100+ GiB of metadata total, only just over 2 
> GiB metadata used, and attempts to balance it don't help with the spread 
> between the two at all, only increasing the total metadata, if anything, 
> but still seem to complete without error.  There's gotta be some sort of 
> bug going on there, and I'd /bet/ it's the same one that's keeping full 
> balances from working, as well.

I don't understand a single word of this, but you seem to understand
it. Good.

> 
> OK, this question's out of left field, but it's the only thing (well, 
> /almost/ only, see below) I've seen do anything /remotely/ like that:
> 
> Was the filesystem originally created as a convert from ext*, using btrfs-
> convert?  If so, was the ext2_saved or whatever subvolume removed, and a 
> successful defrag and balance completed at that time?

I have dug aroud in my auth.logs, and thanks to my not working in a
root shell but using sudo for every single command I can say that the
filesystem was created on September 1, 2015, so it is not _this_ old,
and snapshot.debian.net tells me that Debian unstable had btrfs-tools
4.1.2 uploaded on August 31, so i guess that the filesystem was either
created by the 4.0 version we had since May 2015 or by the brand new
4.1.2.

And it was a mkfs.btrfs with no special options. I suspected this
since I would probably not have made an ext4 filesystem of 300 GB in
size. Back in the ext4 days, I usually made /, /usr, /var, /home and
/boot their own filesystems.

> Tho AFAIK there was in addition a very narrow timeframe in which a bug in 
> mkfs.btrfs would create invalid btrfs'.  That was with btrfs-progs 4.1.1, 
> released in July 2015, with an urgent bugfix release 4.1.2 in the same 
> month to fix the problem, so the timeframe was days or weeks.

Debian is chastized for their allegedly quirky release schedules even
in this thread, I usually ignore that, but this time a smile comes to
my face when I say that btrfs-progs 4.1.1 was never packaged in
Debian, hence we're clear of this bug here. We went from 4.0 straight
to 4.1.2.

Greetings
Marc

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-03-07  8:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-02-27 21:14 Again, no space left on device while rebalancing and recipe doesnt work Marc Haber
2016-02-27 23:15 ` Martin Steigerwald
2016-02-28  0:08   ` Marc Haber
2016-02-28  0:22     ` Hugo Mills
2016-02-28  8:40       ` Marc Haber
2016-02-29  1:56 ` Qu Wenruo
2016-02-29 15:33   ` Marc Haber
2016-03-01  0:45     ` Qu Wenruo
     [not found]       ` <20160301065448.GJ2334@torres.zugschlus.de>
2016-03-01  7:24         ` Qu Wenruo
2016-03-01  8:13           ` Qu Wenruo
     [not found]             ` <20160301161659.GR2334@torres.zugschlus.de>
2016-03-03  2:02               ` Qu Wenruo
2016-03-01 20:51           ` Duncan
2016-03-05 14:28             ` Marc Haber
2016-03-03  0:28 ` Dāvis Mosāns
2016-03-03  3:42   ` Qu Wenruo
2016-03-03  4:57   ` Duncan
2016-03-03 15:39     ` Dāvis Mosāns
2016-03-04 12:31       ` Duncan
2016-03-04 12:35         ` Hugo Mills
2016-03-27 12:10         ` Martin Steigerwald
2016-03-27 23:12           ` Duncan
2016-03-05 14:39   ` Marc Haber
2016-03-05 19:34     ` Chris Murphy
2016-03-05 20:09       ` Marc Haber
2016-03-06  6:43         ` Duncan
2016-03-06 20:27           ` Chris Murphy
2016-03-06 20:37             ` Chris Murphy
2016-03-07  8:47               ` Marc Haber
2016-03-07  8:42             ` Marc Haber
2016-03-07 18:39               ` Chris Murphy
2016-03-07 18:56                 ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2016-03-07 19:07                   ` Chris Murphy
2016-03-07 19:33                   ` Marc Haber
2016-03-12 21:36                 ` Marc Haber
2016-03-07 19:44               ` Chris Murphy
2016-03-07 20:43                 ` Duncan
2016-03-07 22:44                   ` Chris Murphy
2016-03-12 21:30             ` Marc Haber
2016-03-07  8:30           ` Marc Haber [this message]
2016-03-07 20:07             ` Duncan
2016-03-07  8:56         ` Marc Haber
2016-03-12 19:57       ` Marc Haber
2016-03-13 19:43         ` Chris Murphy
2016-03-13 20:50           ` Marc Haber
2016-03-13 21:31             ` Chris Murphy
2016-03-12 21:14       ` Marc Haber
2016-03-13 11:58       ` New file system with same issue (was: Again, no space left on device while rebalancing and recipe doesnt work) Marc Haber
2016-03-13 13:17         ` Andrew Vaughan
2016-03-13 16:56           ` Marc Haber
2016-03-13 17:12         ` Duncan
2016-03-13 21:05           ` Marc Haber
2016-03-14  1:05             ` Duncan
2016-03-14 11:49               ` Marc Haber
2016-03-13 19:14         ` Henk Slager
2016-03-13 19:42           ` Henk Slager
2016-03-13 20:56           ` Marc Haber
2016-03-14  0:00             ` Henk Slager
2016-03-15  7:20               ` Marc Haber
2016-03-14 12:07         ` Marc Haber
2016-03-14 12:48           ` New file system with same issue Holger Hoffstätte
2016-03-14 20:13             ` Marc Haber
2016-03-15 10:52               ` Holger Hoffstätte
2016-03-15 13:46                 ` Marc Haber
2016-03-15 13:54                   ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2016-03-15 14:09                     ` Marc Haber
2016-03-17  1:17               ` A good "Boot Maintenance" scheme (WAS: New file system with same issue) Robert White
2016-03-14 13:46           ` New file system with same issue (was: Again, no space left on device while rebalancing and recipe doesnt work) Henk Slager
2016-03-14 20:05             ` Marc Haber
2016-03-14 20:39               ` Henk Slager
2016-03-14 21:59                 ` Chris Murphy
2016-03-14 23:22                   ` Henk Slager
2016-03-15  7:16                     ` Marc Haber
2016-03-15 12:15                       ` Henk Slager
2016-03-15 13:24                         ` Marc Haber
2016-03-15  7:07                 ` Marc Haber
2016-03-27 12:15                   ` Martin Steigerwald
2016-03-15 13:29               ` Marc Haber
2016-03-15 13:42                 ` Marc Haber
2016-03-15 16:54                   ` Henk Slager
2016-03-27  8:41 ` Current state of old filesystem " Marc Haber
2016-04-01 13:59 ` Again, no space left on device while rebalancing and recipe doesnt work Marc Haber

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