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From: Kai Krakow <hurikhan77@gmail.com>
To: linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: BTRFS for OLTP Databases
Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2017 21:54:08 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170207215408.65030acd@jupiter.sol.kaishome.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 6d7eac16-773e-bf6c-a6be-d3950f9b2325@gmail.com

Am Tue, 7 Feb 2017 15:27:34 -0500
schrieb "Austin S. Hemmelgarn" <ahferroin7@gmail.com>:

> >> I'm not sure about this one.  I would assume based on the fact that
> >> many other things don't work with nodatacow and that regular defrag
> >> doesn't work on files which are currently mapped as executable code
> >> that it does not, but I could be completely wrong about this too.  
> >
> > Technically, there's nothing that prevents autodefrag to work for
> > nodatacow files. The question is: is it really necessary? Standard
> > file systems also have no autodefrag, it's not an issue there
> > because they are essentially nodatacow. Simply defrag the database
> > file once and you're done. Transactional MySQL uses huge data
> > files, probably preallocated. It should simply work with
> > nodatacow.  
> The thing is, I don't have enough knowledge of how defrag is
> implemented in BTRFS to say for certain that ti doesn't use COW
> semantics somewhere (and I would actually expect it to do so, since
> that in theory makes many things _much_ easier to handle), and if it
> uses COW somewhere, then it by definition doesn't work on NOCOW files.

A dev would be needed on this. But from a non-dev point of view, the
defrag operation itself is CoW: Blocks are rewritten to another
location in contiguous order. Only metadata CoW should be needed for
this operation.

It should be nothing else than writing to a nodatacow snapshot... Just
that the snapshot is more or less implicit and temporary.

Hmm? *curious*

-- 
Regards,
Kai

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-02-07 21:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-02-07 13:53 BTRFS for OLTP Databases Peter Zaitsev
2017-02-07 14:00 ` Hugo Mills
2017-02-07 14:13   ` Peter Zaitsev
2017-02-07 15:00     ` Timofey Titovets
2017-02-07 15:09       ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2017-02-07 15:20         ` Timofey Titovets
2017-02-07 15:43           ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2017-02-07 21:14             ` Kai Krakow
2017-02-07 16:22     ` Lionel Bouton
2017-02-07 19:57     ` Roman Mamedov
2017-02-07 20:36     ` Kai Krakow
2017-02-07 20:44       ` Lionel Bouton
2017-02-07 20:47       ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2017-02-07 21:25         ` Lionel Bouton
2017-02-07 21:35           ` Kai Krakow
2017-02-07 22:27             ` Hans van Kranenburg
2017-02-08 19:08             ` Goffredo Baroncelli
     [not found]         ` <b0de25a7-989e-d16a-2ce6-2b6c1edde08b@gmail.com>
2017-02-13 12:44           ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2017-02-13 17:16             ` linux-btrfs
2017-02-07 19:31   ` Peter Zaitsev
2017-02-07 19:50     ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2017-02-07 20:19       ` Kai Krakow
2017-02-07 20:27         ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2017-02-07 20:54           ` Kai Krakow [this message]
2017-02-08 12:12             ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2017-02-08  2:11   ` Peter Zaitsev
2017-02-08 12:14     ` Martin Raiber
2017-02-08 13:00       ` Adrian Brzezinski
2017-02-08 13:08       ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2017-02-08 13:26         ` Martin Raiber
2017-02-08 13:32           ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2017-02-08 14:28             ` Adrian Brzezinski
2017-02-08 13:38           ` Peter Zaitsev
2017-02-07 14:47 ` Peter Grandi
2017-02-07 15:06 ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2017-02-07 19:39   ` Kai Krakow
2017-02-07 19:59     ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2017-02-07 18:27 ` Jeff Mahoney
2017-02-07 18:59   ` Peter Zaitsev
2017-02-07 19:54     ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2017-02-07 20:40       ` Peter Zaitsev
2017-02-07 22:08     ` Hans van Kranenburg

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