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From: Hugo Mills <hugo@carfax.org.uk>
To: linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: snapshots of encrypted directories?
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2017 15:32:22 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170914153222.GC7067@carfax.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170914145739.GA32347@rus.uni-stuttgart.de>

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On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 04:57:39PM +0200, Ulli Horlacher wrote:
> I use encfs on top of btrfs.
> I can create btrfs snapshots, but I have no suggestive access to the files
> in these snaspshots, because they look like:
> 
> drwx------  framstag users        - 2017-09-08 11:47:18 uHjprldmxo3-nSfLmcH54HMW
> drwxr-xr-x  framstag users        - 2017-09-08 11:47:18 wNEWaDCgyXTj0d-Myk8wXZfh
> -rw-r--r--  framstag users      377 2015-06-12 14:02:53 -zDmc7xfobKDkbl8z7oKOHxv
> -rw-r--r--  framstag users    2,367 2012-07-10 14:32:30 7pfKs27K9k5zANE4WOQEuFa2
> -rw-------  framstag users      692 2009-10-20 13:45:41 8SQElYCph85kDdcFasUHybVr
> -rw-------  framstag users    2,872 2017-08-31 16:21:52 bm,yNi1e4fsAClDv7lNxxSfJ
> lrwxrwxrwx  framstag users        - 2017-06-01 15:53:00 GZxNYI0Gy96R18fz40f7k5rl -> wvuQKHYzdFbar18fW6jjOerXk2IsS4OAA2fnHalBZjMQ,7Kw0j-zE3IJqxhmmGBN8G9
> -rw-r--r--  framstag users      182 2016-12-01 13:34:31 rqtNBbiYDym0hPMbBL-VLJZcFZu6nkNxlsjTX-sU88I4I1
> 
> I have to mount the snapshot with encfs, to have access to the (decrypted)
> files. 
> 
> Any better ideas?

   I'd say it's doing exactly what it should be doing. You're making a
copy of an encrypted data store, and the result is encrypted. In order
to read it, it needs to have the decrpytion layer applied to it with
the correct key (which is the need to mount the snapshot with encfs).

   Would you _really_ want a system where the encrypted contents of a
subvolume can be decrypted by simply snapshotting it?

   Hugo.

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-09-14 15:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-09-14 14:57 snapshots of encrypted directories? Ulli Horlacher
2017-09-14 15:32 ` Hugo Mills [this message]
2017-09-15  3:45   ` Andrei Borzenkov
2017-09-15 10:01     ` Ulli Horlacher
2017-09-15 10:15       ` Peter Becker
2017-09-15 16:28         ` Ulli Horlacher
2017-09-15 17:16           ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2017-09-15 19:41             ` Ulli Horlacher
2017-09-18 11:45               ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2017-09-19 18:22       ` Dave
2017-09-15 12:35     ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2017-09-15 17:25       ` Andrei Borzenkov

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