From: Tomasz Pala <gotar@polanet.pl>
To: linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: exclusive subvolume space missing
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2017 09:22:14 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171215082214.GA13892@polanet.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7ea3ab01-eb63-4875-7496-a4ad833c5854@gmx.com>
On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 08:50:15 +0800, Qu Wenruo wrote:
> Even without snapshot, things can easily go crazy.
>
> This will write 128M file (max btrfs file extent size) and write it to disk.
> # xfs_io -f -c "pwrite 0 128M" -c "sync" /mnt/btrfs/file
>
> Then, overwrite the 1~128M range.
> # xfs_io -f -c "pwrite 1M 127M" -c "sync" /mnt/btrfs/file
>
> Guess your real disk usage, it's 127M + 128M = 255M.
>
> The point here, if there is any reference of a file extent, the whole
> extent won't be freed, even it's only 1M of a 128M extent.
OK, /this/ is scary. I guess nocow prevents this behaviour?
I have +C chatted the file eating my space and it ceased.
> Are you pre-allocating the file before write using tools like dd?
I have no idea, this could be checked in source of http://pam-abl.sourceforge.net/
But this is plain Berkeley DB (5.3 in my case)... which scarries me even
more:
$ rpm -q --what-requires 'libdb-5.2.so()(64bit)' 'libdb-5.3.so()(64bit)' | wc -l
14
# ipoldek desc -B db5.3
Package: db5.3-5.3.28.0-4.x86_64
Required(by): apache1-base, apache1-mod_ssl, apr-util-dbm-db,
bogofilter,
c-icap, c-icap-srv_url_check, courier-authlib,
courier-authlib-authuserdb, courier-imap, courier-imap-common,
cyrus-imapd, cyrus-imapd-libs, cyrus-sasl, cyrus-sasl-sasldb,
db5.3-devel, db5.3-utils, dnshistory, dsniff, evolution-data-server,
evolution-data-server-libs, exim, gda-db, ggz-server,
heimdal-libs-common, hotkeys, inn, inn-libs, isync, jabberd, jigdo,
jigdo-gtk, jnettop, libetpan, libgda3, libgda3-devel, libhome, libqxt,
libsolv, lizardfs-master, maildrop, moc, mutt, netatalk, nss_updatedb,
ocaml-dbm, opensips, opensmtpd, pam-pam_abl, pam-pam_ccreds, perl-BDB,
perl-BerkeleyDB, perl-BerkeleyDB, perl-DB_File, perl-URPM,
perl-cyrus-imapd, php4-dba, php52-dba, php53-dba, php54-dba, php55-dba,
php56-dba, php70-dba, php70-dba, php71-dba, php71-dba, php72-dba,
php72-dba, postfix, python-bsddb, python-modules, python3-bsddb3,
redland, ruby-modules, sendmail, squid-session_acl,
squid-time_quota_acl, squidGuard, subversion-libs, swish-e, tomoe-svn,
webalizer-base, wwwcount
OK, not much of user-applications here, as they mostly use sqlite.
I wonder how this one db-library behaves:
$ find . -name \*.sqlite | xargs ls -gGhS | head -n1
-rw-r--r-- 1 15M 2017-12-08 12:14 ./.mozilla/firefox/vni9ojqi.default/extension-data/ublock0.sqlite
$ ~/fiemap ./.mozilla/firefox/*.default/extension-data/ublock0.sqlite | head -n1
File ./.mozilla/firefox/vni9ojqi.default/extension-data/ublock0.sqlite has 128 extents:
At least every $HOME/{.{,c}cache,tmp} should be +C...
> And if possible, use nocow for this file.
Actually, this should be officially advised to use +C for entire /var tree and
every other tree that might be exposed for hostile write patterns, like /home
or /tmp (if held on btrfs).
I'd say, that from security point of view the nocow should be default,
unless specified for mount or specific file... Currently, if I mount
with nocow, there is no way to whitelist trusted users or secure
location, and until btrfs-specific options could be handled per
subvolume, there is really no alternative.
--
Tomasz Pala <gotar@pld-linux.org>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-12-15 8:22 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-12-01 16:15 exclusive subvolume space missing Tomasz Pala
2017-12-01 21:27 ` Duncan
2017-12-01 21:36 ` Hugo Mills
2017-12-02 0:53 ` Tomasz Pala
2017-12-02 1:05 ` Qu Wenruo
2017-12-02 1:43 ` Tomasz Pala
2017-12-02 2:17 ` Qu Wenruo
2017-12-02 2:56 ` Duncan
2017-12-02 16:28 ` Tomasz Pala
2017-12-02 17:18 ` Tomasz Pala
2017-12-03 1:45 ` Duncan
2017-12-03 10:47 ` Adam Borowski
2017-12-04 5:11 ` Chris Murphy
2017-12-10 10:49 ` Tomasz Pala
2017-12-04 4:58 ` Chris Murphy
2017-12-02 0:27 ` Qu Wenruo
2017-12-02 1:23 ` Tomasz Pala
2017-12-02 1:47 ` Qu Wenruo
2017-12-02 2:21 ` Tomasz Pala
2017-12-02 2:35 ` Qu Wenruo
2017-12-02 9:33 ` Tomasz Pala
2017-12-04 0:34 ` Qu Wenruo
2017-12-10 11:27 ` Tomasz Pala
2017-12-10 15:49 ` Tomasz Pala
2017-12-10 23:44 ` Qu Wenruo
2017-12-11 0:24 ` Qu Wenruo
2017-12-11 11:40 ` Tomasz Pala
2017-12-12 0:50 ` Qu Wenruo
2017-12-15 8:22 ` Tomasz Pala [this message]
2017-12-16 3:21 ` Duncan
2017-12-05 18:47 ` How exclusive in parent qgroup is computed? (was: Re: exclusive subvolume space missing) Andrei Borzenkov
2017-12-05 23:57 ` How exclusive in parent qgroup is computed? Qu Wenruo
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