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From: Johannes Thumshirn <jthumshirn@suse.de>
To: "Holger Hoffstätte" <holger@applied-asynchrony.com>
Cc: Linux BTRFS Mailinglist <linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/4] Support xxhash64 checksums
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2019 14:54:18 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190822125418.GF4052@x250> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ed9e2eaa-7637-9752-94bb-fd415ab2b798@applied-asynchrony.com>

On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 02:28:53PM +0200, Holger Hoffstätte wrote:
> On 8/22/19 1:40 PM, Johannes Thumshirn wrote:
> > Now that Nikolay's XXHASH64 support for the Crypto API has landed and BTRFS is
> > prepared for an easy addition of new checksums, this patchset implements
> > XXHASH64 as a second, fast but not cryptographically secure checksum hash.
> 
> Question from the cheap seats.. :)
> 
> I know that crc32c-intel uses native SSE 4.2 instructions, but so far I have
> been unable to find benchmarks or explanations why adding xxhash64 benefits
> btrfs. All benchmarks seem to be against crc32c in *software*, not the
> SSE4.2-enabled version (or I can't read). I mean, it's great that xxhash64 is
> really fast for a software implementation, but how does btrfs benefit from this
> compared to using crc32-intel?
> 
> Verifying that plugging in other hash impls works (e.g. as preparation for
> stronger impls) has value, but it's probably not something most
> users care about.
> 
> Maybe there are obscure downsides to crc32c-intel like instruction latency
> (def. a problem for AVX512), cache pollution..?
> 
> Just curious.

It's not so much about the performance aspect of xxhash64 vs crc32c. xxhash64
has a lower collission proability compared to crc32c, which for instance makes
it a good candidate to use for de-duplication.

HTH,
	Johannes
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  reply	other threads:[~2019-08-22 12:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-08-22 11:40 [PATCH v2 0/4] Support xxhash64 checksums Johannes Thumshirn
2019-08-22 11:40 ` [PATCH v2 1/4] btrfs: turn checksum type define into a enum Johannes Thumshirn
2019-08-22 11:40 ` [PATCH v2 2/4] btrfs: create structure to encode checksum type and length Johannes Thumshirn
2019-08-22 12:11   ` Johannes Thumshirn
2019-08-22 13:22   ` [PATCH v2.1] " Johannes Thumshirn
2019-08-22 11:40 ` [PATCH v2 3/4] btrfs: use xxhash64 for checksumming Johannes Thumshirn
2019-08-22 11:40 ` [PATCH v2 4/4] btrfs: sysfs: export supported checksums Johannes Thumshirn
2019-08-22 12:28 ` [PATCH v2 0/4] Support xxhash64 checksums Holger Hoffstätte
2019-08-22 12:54   ` Johannes Thumshirn [this message]
2019-08-22 15:40   ` Peter Becker
2019-08-23  9:38     ` Paul Jones
2019-08-23  9:43       ` Paul Jones
2019-08-23 17:08         ` Adam Borowski
2019-08-26 12:27           ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2019-08-27  0:33             ` Adam Borowski

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