From: Hugo Mills <hugo@carfax.org.uk>
To: Wang Yugui <wangyugui@e16-tech.com>,
Qu Wenruo <quwenruo.btrfs@gmx.com>, Qu Wenruo <wqu@suse.com>,
"linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org" <linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: simple Chunk allocator like calculation to replace Factor based calculation
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2020 11:23:49 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201002102349.GK3679@savella.carfax.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201002101313.GJ3679@savella.carfax.org.uk>
Oh, I forgot: the write-up of this algorithm, sich as it is, is at
https://carfax.org.uk/files/btrfs-usage.pdf, if anyone's interested.
It's incomplete because I was unable to complete a formal proof of its
correctness.
Hugo.
On Fri, Oct 02, 2020 at 11:13:13AM +0100, Hugo Mills wrote:
> We can do this calculation precisely, in at most O(n^2) time, where
> n is the number of *devices* in the FS.
>
> Inner step:
>
> Let s be the number of devices allocated in a single allocation step(*).
>
> Sort the n devices in decreasing order of size, c[i].
>
> For each device i, let b[i] = floor(sum c[j] / (s-i)), where the
> sum is taken over all devices smaller than i.
>
> Throw out values of b[i] where c[i] < b[i].
>
> Let B = floor(sum c[j] / n), where the sum is taken over all devices.
>
> Let t_max be the smallest value of B and the remaining b[i].
>
> t_max is the number of allocations that can be performed on the
> filesystem using an allocation size of s.
>
> Outer step:
>
> If the RAID level has a fixed s value, run the inner step and stop.
>
> If the RAID level can vary, run the inner step, setting s to the
> number of devices with free space on at each iteration.
>
>
> (*) single: s = 1
> RAID1(c3,c4): s = 2(,3,4)
> RAID10: s = 4
> RAID0,5,6: s = the number of devices with free space
>
> This is the algorithm used in the carfax btrfs-usage calculator,
> and has been fairly comprehensively battle-tested over the years,
> although I was unable to prove its correctness mathematically.
>
> Hugo.
>
> On Fri, Oct 02, 2020 at 05:06:14PM +0800, Wang Yugui wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > We have another user case difficult to process.
> >
> > #with a fix of RAID10 to RAID1C4
> > #for RAID10, the iteration number is not big.
> > #but for RAID1C4,the iteration number is big.
> >
> > Use case:
> > Add 10T disk * 4 to near full full RAID1C4 10T *4;
> > free space maybe be such as 10T,10T,10T,10T,2G,2G,2G,2G.
> >
> > There maybe a lot of iterations for this case because of 2G chunk size,
> > and then result in bad performance?
> >
> >
> > Best Regards
> > 王玉贵
> > 2020/10/02
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 2020/10/2 上午9:59, Wang Yugui wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>> such as
> > > >>> 1) RAID10 with 8T,1T,1T,1T,1T
> > > >>> the virtal chunk size of 1st iteration: 1T or 0.33T?
> > > >>> 1T chunk will use 4T at most
> > > >>> 0.33T chunk will use 5.33T at most?
> > > >>
> > > >> You didn't get the point.
> > > >> For the each loop we:
> > > >> - Sort the devices with their free space.
> > > >> In this case, it's 8, 1, 1, 1, 1.
> > > >>
> > > >> - Round down to dev increament
> > > >> Then we got 8, 1, 1, 1.
> > > >>
> > > >> - Then allocate chunk
> > > >> Since the biggest unallocated space is 1T, we allocate a RAID10 with
> > > >> 1T stripe size, which will be a 2T chunk.
> > > >>
> > > >> The remaining size is 7, 0, 0, 0, 1.
> > > >
> > > > That is the problem. 1T chunk size is too big for this case.
> > > >
> > > > if we use 1/3T chunk size, the result will be same as 1G chunk size.
> > > >
> > > > 1st: 8T - 1/3T 2/3T, 2/3T, 2/3T, 1T
> > > > 2nd: 8T -2/3T 2/3T, 1/3T, 1/3T, 2/3T
> > > > 3rd: 8T -1T 1/3T, 1/3T, 0T, 1/3T
> > > > 4th: 8T -4/3T 0T, 0T, 0T, 0T
> > >
> > > You're right, smaller balloon chunk size would make the allocation more
> > > accurate to real chunk allocator.
> > >
> > > However that would slow down the calculation, don't forget that we need
> > > to run that calculation on each chunk allocation.
> > > Changing the balloon chunk allocation size dynamically may improve this.
> > >
> > > But please also keep in mind that, with less and less space left, our
> > > predication will be more and more accurate, and under estimate is always
> > > less a problem.
> > >
> > > So I'll keep your suggestion for future enhancement.
> > >
> > > Thanks for pointing out the pitfall of current calculation,
> > > Qu
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Best Regards
> > > > 王玉贵
> > > > 2020/10/02
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> - We go to next round.
> > > >> No way to allocate new chunk.
> > > >>
> > > >> In this case, we can only get 2T chunk.
> > > >> Just as the chunk allocator do.
> > > >>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> 2) RAID10 with 8T,1T,1T,1T,0.5T
> > > >>> the virtal chunk size of 1st iteration:0.5T or smaller?
> > > >>
> > > >> Still the same, 2T chunk can be allocated using the largest 4 devices.
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks,
> > > >> Qu
> > > >>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Best Regards
> > > >>> 王玉贵
> > > >>> 2020/10/02
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> --------------------------------------
> > > >>> 北京京垓科技有限公司
> > > >>> 王玉贵 wangyugui@e16-tech.com
> > > >>> 电话:+86-136-71123776
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > > --------------------------------------
> > > > 北京京垓科技有限公司
> > > > 王玉贵 wangyugui@e16-tech.com
> > > > 电话:+86-136-71123776
> > > >
> > >
> >
> > --------------------------------------
> > 北京京垓科技有限公司
> > 王玉贵 wangyugui@e16-tech.com
> > 电话:+86-136-71123776
> >
>
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2020-10-01 23:38 ` simple Chunk allocator like calculation to replace Factor based calculation Qu Wenruo
2020-10-02 1:30 ` Wang Yugui
2020-10-02 1:46 ` Qu Wenruo
2020-10-02 1:59 ` Wang Yugui
2020-10-02 3:06 ` Qu Wenruo
2020-10-02 9:01 ` Wang Yugui
2020-10-02 9:15 ` Qu Wenruo
2020-10-02 9:06 ` Wang Yugui
2020-10-02 10:13 ` Hugo Mills
2020-10-02 10:23 ` Hugo Mills [this message]
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