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From: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
To: Erik Jensen <erikjensen@rkjnsn.net>
Cc: Qu Wenruo <quwenruo.btrfs@gmx.com>,
	Linux FS Devel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org" <linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: page->index limitation on 32bit system?
Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2021 23:22:24 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210220232224.GF2858050@casper.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b3e40749-a30d-521a-904f-8182c6d0e258@rkjnsn.net>

On Sat, Feb 20, 2021 at 03:02:26PM -0800, Erik Jensen wrote:
> On 2/18/21 5:39 AM, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> > On Thu, Feb 18, 2021 at 08:42:14PM +0800, Qu Wenruo wrote:
> > > [...]
> > > BTW, what would be the extra cost by converting page::index to u64?
> > > I know tons of printk() would cause warning, but most 64bit systems
> > > should not be affected anyway.
> > 
> > No effect for 64-bit systems, other than the churn.
> > 
> > For 32-bit systems, it'd have some pretty horrible overhead.  You don't
> > just have to touch the page cache, you have to convert the XArray.
> > It's doable (I mean, it's been done), but it's very costly for all the
> > 32-bit systems which don't use a humongous filesystem.  And we could
> > minimise that overhead with a typedef, but then the source code gets
> > harder to work with.
> 
> Out of curiosity, would it be at all feasible to use 64-bits for the page
> offset *without* changing XArray, perhaps by indexing by the lower 32-bits,
> and evicting the page that's there if the top bits don't match (vaguely like
> how the CPU cache works)? Or, if there are cases where a page can't be
> evicted (I don't know if this can ever happen), use chaining?
> 
> I would expect index contention to be extremely uncommon, and it could only
> happen for inodes larger than 16 TiB, which can't be used at all today. I
> don't know how many data structures store page offsets today, but it seems
> like this should significantly reduce the performance impact versus upping
> XArray to 64-bit indexes.

Again, you're asking for significant development work for a dying
platform.

Did you try the bootlin patch?

  reply	other threads:[~2021-02-20 23:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-02-18  8:54 page->index limitation on 32bit system? Qu Wenruo
2021-02-18 12:15 ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-02-18 12:42   ` Qu Wenruo
2021-02-18 13:39     ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-02-19  0:37       ` Qu Wenruo
2021-02-19 16:12         ` Theodore Ts'o
2021-02-19 23:10           ` Qu Wenruo
2021-02-20  0:23             ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-02-22  0:19             ` Dave Chinner
2021-02-20  2:20           ` Erik Jensen
2021-02-20  3:40             ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-02-20 23:02       ` Erik Jensen
2021-02-20 23:22         ` Matthew Wilcox [this message]
2021-02-21  0:01           ` Erik Jensen
2021-02-21 17:15             ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-02-18 21:27   ` Erik Jensen
2021-02-19 14:22     ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-02-19 17:51       ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-02-19 23:13         ` Qu Wenruo
2021-02-22  1:48       ` Dave Chinner
2021-03-01  1:49         ` GWB

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