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From: Ulli Horlacher <framstag@rus.uni-stuttgart.de>
To: Btrfs BTRFS <linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: cannot use btrfs for nfs server
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2021 09:25:25 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210712072525.GI1548@tik.uni-stuttgart.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJCQCtQn0=8KiB=2garN8k2NRd1PO3HBnrMNvmqssSfKT2-UXQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat 2021-07-10 (16:17), Chris Murphy wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 10, 2021 at 12:56 AM Ulli Horlacher
> <framstag@rus.uni-stuttgart.de> wrote:
> 
> > root@tsmsrvj:# snaprotate -v test 5 /data/fex/spool
> > $ btrfs subvolume snapshot -r /data/fex/spool /data/fex/spool/.snapshot/2021-07-10_0849.test
> > Create a readonly snapshot of '/data/fex/spool' in '/data/fex/spool/.snapshot/2021-07-10_0849.test'
> 
> I think this might be the source of the problem. Nested snapshots are
> not a good idea, it causes various kinds of confusion.

I do not have nested snapshots anywhere.
/data/fex/spool is not a snapshot.
/data/fex/spool/.snapshot/2021-07-10_0849.test is a simple snapshot of
the btrfs subvolume /data/fex/spool


> > We cannot move the snapshots to a different directory. Our workflow
> > depends on snaprotate:
> >
> > http://fex.belwue.de/linuxtools/snaprotate.html
> 
> OK does the problem happen if you have no nested snapshots (no nested
> subvolumes of any kind) in the NFS export path?
>
> If the problem doesn't happen, then either the tool you've chosen needs
> to be enhanced so it will create snapshots somewhere else, which Btrfs
> supports, or you need to find another tool that can.

Without snapshots there is no problem, but we need access to the snapshots
on the nfs clients for backup/recovery like Netapp offers it.
But Netapp is EXPENSIVE :-}

If we cannot handle it with btrfs, then we have to switch to ZFS.

-- 
Ullrich Horlacher              Server und Virtualisierung
Rechenzentrum TIK         
Universitaet Stuttgart         E-Mail: horlacher@tik.uni-stuttgart.de
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70569 Stuttgart (Germany)      WWW:    http://www.tik.uni-stuttgart.de/
REF:<CAJCQCtQn0=8KiB=2garN8k2NRd1PO3HBnrMNvmqssSfKT2-UXQ@mail.gmail.com>

  reply	other threads:[~2021-07-12  7:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20210613115313.BC59.409509F4@e16-tech.com>
2021-03-10  7:46 ` nfs subvolume access? Ulli Horlacher
2021-03-10  7:59   ` Hugo Mills
2021-03-10  8:09     ` Ulli Horlacher
2021-03-10  9:35       ` Graham Cobb
2021-03-10 15:55         ` Ulli Horlacher
2021-03-10 17:29           ` Forza
2021-03-10 17:46             ` Ulli Horlacher
2021-03-10  8:17   ` Ulli Horlacher
2021-03-11  7:46   ` Ulli Horlacher
2021-07-08 22:17     ` cannot use btrfs for nfs server Ulli Horlacher
2021-07-09  0:05       ` Graham Cobb
2021-07-09  4:05         ` NeilBrown
2021-07-09  6:53         ` Ulli Horlacher
2021-07-09  7:23           ` Forza
2021-07-09  7:24             ` Hugo Mills
2021-07-09  7:34             ` Ulli Horlacher
2021-07-09 16:30               ` Chris Murphy
2021-07-10  6:35                 ` Ulli Horlacher
2021-07-11 11:41                   ` Forza
2021-07-12  7:17                     ` Ulli Horlacher
2021-07-09 16:35           ` Chris Murphy
2021-07-10  6:56             ` Ulli Horlacher
2021-07-10 22:17               ` Chris Murphy
2021-07-12  7:25                 ` Ulli Horlacher [this message]
2021-07-12 13:06                   ` Graham Cobb
2021-07-12 16:16                     ` Ulli Horlacher
2021-07-12 22:56                       ` g.btrfs
2021-07-13  7:37                         ` Ulli Horlacher
2021-07-19 12:06                           ` Forza
2021-07-19 13:07                             ` Forza
2021-07-19 13:35                               ` Forza
2021-07-27 11:27                             ` Ulli Horlacher
2021-07-09 16:06       ` Lord Vader
2021-07-10  7:03         ` Ulli Horlacher
     [not found]   ` <162632387205.13764.6196748476850020429@noble.neil.brown.name>
2021-07-15 14:09     ` [PATCH/RFC] NFSD: handle BTRFS subvolumes better Josef Bacik
2021-07-15 16:45       ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-07-15 17:11         ` Josef Bacik
2021-07-15 17:24           ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-07-15 18:01             ` Josef Bacik
2021-07-15 22:37               ` NeilBrown
2021-07-19 15:40                 ` Josef Bacik
2021-07-19 20:00                   ` J. Bruce Fields
2021-07-19 20:44                     ` Josef Bacik
2021-07-19 23:53                       ` NeilBrown
2021-07-19 15:49                 ` J. Bruce Fields
2021-07-20  0:02                   ` NeilBrown
2021-07-19  9:16               ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-07-19 23:54                 ` NeilBrown
2021-07-20  6:23                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-07-20  7:17                     ` NeilBrown
2021-07-20  8:00                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-07-20 23:11                         ` NeilBrown
2021-07-20 22:10               ` J. Bruce Fields
2021-07-15 23:02       ` NeilBrown
2021-07-15 15:45     ` J. Bruce Fields
2021-07-15 23:08       ` NeilBrown

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