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From: Wang Yugui <wangyugui@e16-tech.com>
To: Qu Wenruo <quwenruo.btrfs@gmx.com>
Cc: Forza <forza@tnonline.net>, Btrfs BTRFS <linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: What mechanisms protect against split brain?
Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2022 19:55:25 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220608195524.7F1C.409509F4@e16-tech.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d1d47581-9003-2202-55ca-279b2ca4dba6@gmx.com>

Hi,

> On 2022/6/8 18:58, Wang Yugui wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> >> On 2022/6/8 18:15, Wang Yugui wrote:
> >>> Hi, Forza, Qu Wenruo
> >>>
> >>> I write a script to test RAID1 split brain base on Qu's work of raid5(*1)
> >>> *1: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-btrfs/53f7bace2ac75d88ace42dd811d48b7912647301.1654672140.git.wqu@suse.com/T/#u
> >>
> >> No no no, that is not to address split brain, but mostly to drop cache
> >> for recovery path to maximize the chance of recovery.
> >>
> >> It's not designed to solve split brain problem at all, it's just one
> >> case of such problem.
> >>
> >> In fact, fully split brain (both have the same generation, but
> >> experienced their own degraded mount) case can not be solved by btrfs
> >> itself at all.
> >>
> >> Btrfs can only solve partial split brain case (one device has higher
> >> generation, thus btrfs can still determine which copy is the correct one).
> >>
> >>>
> >>> #!/bin/bash
> >>> set -uxe -o pipefail
> >>>
> >>> mnt=/mnt/test
> >>> dev1=/dev/vdb1
> >>> dev2=/dev/vdb2
> >>>
> >>>     dmesg -C
> >>>     mkdir -p $mnt
> >>>
> >>>     mkfs.btrfs -f -m raid1 -d raid1 $dev1 $dev2
> >>>     mount $dev1 $mnt
> >>>     xfs_io -f -c "pwrite -S 0xee 0 1M" $mnt/file1
> >>>     sync
> >>>     umount $mnt
> >>>
> >>>     btrfs dev scan -u $dev2
> >>>     mount -o degraded $dev1 $mnt
> >>>     #xfs_io -f -c "pwrite -S 0xff 0 128M" $mnt/file2
> >>>     mkdir -p $mnt/branch1; /bin/cp -R /usr/bin $mnt/branch1 #complex than xfs_io
> >>>     umount $mnt
> >>>
> >>>     btrfs dev scan
> >>>     btrfs dev scan -u $dev1
> >>>     mount -o degraded $dev2 $mnt
> >>
> >> Your case is the full split brain case.
> >>
> >> Not possible to solve.
> >>
> >> In fact, if you don't do the degraded mount on dev2, btrfs is completely
> >> fine to resilve the fs without any problem.
> >
> > step1: we mark btrfs/RAID1 with degraded write as not-clean-RAID1.
> 
> Then when to clean?
> Full scrub or some timing else?

'full scrub' or 'full balance' is OK.
this is not the normal path, so no critical performance is required.

> > step2: in that state, we default try to read copy 0 of RAID1
> > 	current pid based i/o patch select policy
> >             preferred_mirror = first + (current->pid % num_stripes);
> 
> That's feasible, but still need an ondisk format change.

yes. we need to save something into the disks.
but maybe 1 byte per disk.  so maybe no ondisk format change.

> Furthermore, this idea can also be done by a more generic way,
> write-intent bitmap.
> 
> In fact, DM layer uses this to speed up resilver, and handle split brain
> cases.
> 
> With write-intent bitmap, every degraded write will leave the record in
> the write-intent bitmap until properly resilvered.

write-intent bitmap have the problem of performance, 
so it is a little expensive for RAID1[C34]?

Best Regards
Wang Yugui (wangyugui@e16-tech.com)
2022/06/08

> Thanks,
> Qu
> 
> >
> > this idea seem to work?
> >
> > degraded RAID1 write is almost the same as full split brain?
> >
> > Best Regards
> > Wang Yugui (wangyugui@e16-tech.com)
> > 2022/06/08



  reply	other threads:[~2022-06-08 11:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-05-29 11:34 What mechanisms protect against split brain? Forza
2022-06-08  2:44 ` Wang Yugui
2022-06-08 10:15   ` Wang Yugui
2022-06-08 10:32     ` Qu Wenruo
2022-06-08 10:58       ` Wang Yugui
2022-06-08 11:19         ` Qu Wenruo
2022-06-08 11:55           ` Wang Yugui [this message]
2022-06-08 11:59             ` Qu Wenruo
2022-06-08 11:40       ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2022-06-08 14:11       ` Andrei Borzenkov
2022-06-08 20:22         ` Forza

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