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From: Roman Mamedov <rm@romanrm.net>
To: Marc MERLIN <marc@merlins.org>
Cc: Andrei Borzenkov <arvidjaar@gmail.com>,
	Zygo Blaxell <ce3g8jdj@umail.furryterror.org>,
	Josef Bacik <josef@toxicpanda.com>,
	"linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org" <linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	Chris Murphy <lists@colorremedies.com>,
	Qu Wenruo <quwenruo.btrfs@gmx.com>
Subject: Re: Suggestions for building new 44TB Raid5 array
Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2022 14:30:33 +0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220611143033.56ffa6af@nvm> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220611045120.GN22722@merlins.org>

On Fri, 10 Jun 2022 21:51:20 -0700
Marc MERLIN <marc@merlins.org> wrote:

> Kernel will be 5.16. Filesystem will be 24TB and contain mostly bigger
> files (100MB to 10GB).

> 2) echo 0fb96f02-d8da-45ce-aba7-070a1a8420e3 >  /sys/block/bcache64/bcache/attach 
>    gargamel:/dev# cat /sys/block/md7/bcache/cache_mode
>    [writethrough] writeback writearound none

Maybe try LVM Cache this time?

> 3) cryptsetup luksFormat --align-payload=2048 -s 256 -c aes-xts-plain64  /dev/bcache64
> 4) cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/bcache64 dshelf1

What's the threat scenario for LUKS on the array?

A major one for me would be not to be having to RMA a disk with all my data
still on the platters. But with RAID5, a single disk by itself would not
contain easily discernible or usable data. Or if you're protecting against
unauthorized access to the entire array, then never mind.

> 5) mkfs.btrfs -m dup -L dshelf1 /dev/mapper/dshelf1

Personally I have switched from Btrfs on MD to individual disks and MergerFS.

The rationale for no RAID is the simplicity and resilience of the individual
single-disk filesystems, and that anything important or not easily
re-obtainable is backed up anyways; so the protection from single disk
failures is not as important, compared to the introduced complexity and the
chance of losing the entire huge FS (like you had).

-- 
With respect,
Roman

  reply	other threads:[~2022-06-11  9:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-06-11  4:51 Suggestions for building new 44TB Raid5 array Marc MERLIN
2022-06-11  9:30 ` Roman Mamedov [this message]
     [not found]   ` <CAK-xaQYc1PufsvksqP77HMe4ZVTkWuRDn2C3P-iMTQzrbQPLGQ@mail.gmail.com>
2022-06-11 14:52     ` Marc MERLIN
2022-06-11 17:54       ` Roman Mamedov
2022-06-12 17:31         ` Marc MERLIN
2022-06-12 21:21       ` Roman Mamedov
2022-06-13 17:46         ` Marc MERLIN
2022-06-13 18:06           ` Roman Mamedov
2022-06-14  4:51             ` Marc MERLIN
2022-06-13 18:10           ` Zygo Blaxell
2022-06-13 18:13         ` Marc MERLIN
2022-06-13 18:29           ` Roman Mamedov
2022-06-13 20:08           ` Zygo Blaxell
2022-06-14  6:36             ` Torbjörn Jansson
2022-06-20 20:37       ` Andrea Gelmini
2022-06-21  5:26         ` Zygo Blaxell
2022-07-06  9:09           ` Andrea Gelmini
2022-06-11 23:44 ` Zygo Blaxell
2022-06-14 11:03 ` ronnie sahlberg
     [not found] ` <5e1733e6-471e-e7cb-9588-3280e659bfc2@aqueos.com>
2022-06-20 15:01   ` Marc MERLIN
2022-06-20 15:52     ` Ghislain Adnet
2022-06-20 16:27       ` Marc MERLIN
2022-06-20 17:02     ` Andrei Borzenkov
2022-06-20 17:26       ` Marc MERLIN

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