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From: David Sterba <dsterba@suse.cz>
To: Chris Murphy <lists@colorremedies.com>
Cc: Neal Gompa <ngompa13@gmail.com>,
	Btrfs BTRFS <linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	Chris Mason <clm@fb.com>, Josef Bacik <josef@toxicpanda.com>
Subject: Re: Using async discard by default with SSDs?
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2022 16:56:40 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220727145640.GS13489@suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <68dc27f3-32a8-4a2a-bfcc-0cf26bca8fec@www.fastmail.com>

On Wed, Jul 27, 2022 at 10:50:01AM -0400, Chris Murphy wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 26, 2022, at 6:10 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
> > On Tue, Jul 26, 2022, at 5:36 PM, David Sterba wrote:
> >> What is quickly here?
> >
> > Seconds, less than a minute, all the blocks pointed to by backup roots 
> > are empty (zeros).
> >
> >  The default timeout is set to 2 minutes and that's
> >> what I've seen when testing that on a fresh filesystem. 
> >
> > Ok I'll retest with 5.19 series. The last time I tested time to drive 
> > gc backup rootswas circa 5.8.
> 
> With 5.19, backup roots remain available for a surprisingly long time,
> definitely more than 2 minutes. It's not an exhaustive test, just a
> dozen samples over a half hour, but I never once saw zeros returned.
> Two out of those dozen, I saw the block already overwritten with a
> leaf of a newer generation and a completely different owner (e.g. csum
> tree written at the block address for the backup tree root)  - which
> would make that backup root useless.
> 
> What is a likely target kernel version to make discard=async the
> default? The merge window for 5.20 closes August 14. Is 5.21 a
> practical target?

The changes for the next merge window are supposed to be done a week or
two before it opens, but as this is a simple change I think I can
squeeze it in.

  reply	other threads:[~2022-07-27 15:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-07-21 18:43 Using async discard by default with SSDs? Neal Gompa
2022-07-21 19:21 ` Roman Mamedov
2022-07-25 19:08 ` David Sterba
2022-07-26 20:00   ` Chris Murphy
2022-07-26 21:36     ` David Sterba
2022-07-26 22:10       ` Chris Murphy
2022-07-27 14:50         ` Chris Murphy
2022-07-27 14:56           ` David Sterba [this message]
2022-07-27 15:14             ` Chris Murphy
2022-07-27 17:47               ` David Sterba
2022-07-28 12:27                 ` Chris Murphy
2022-07-27 15:26             ` Neal Gompa
2022-08-05 15:14             ` David Sterba

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