From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from verein.lst.de (verein.lst.de [213.95.11.211]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C3946283FE6 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2026 06:49:04 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=213.95.11.211 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1768805346; cv=none; b=uBR/2wa1RaEvuT9v8jBlmTuBDEx09YR2CizsI9qg1eobqTbiGXAJl369cl4s0XCNZAOpLjx+kNSjTKf0SGXI+bDaymY4b8cTsH3nuAcan+H/vD5k8vMXbAlNI9JfVKEOnpo2OZf3XbQUeBOyQG+qlWuklXTxwG4RCJmZxW9Y9vk= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1768805346; c=relaxed/simple; bh=T4ow4R2163W57xo7q9l7u1WZpsamU4RWmlPlMYangcQ=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To; b=Bu9tqtwG7JZIDRxg6dj4m5Tpz8nCGG6OZA71ObG+0iWNrmeHLVFF1azgE16wAnLLYgkcvIFV8j8heKkQg/9MXD7o3E3Q/cla1xpIy1Ty9/+dYa0PqY4X7+wkcuDeiRZuH5KBXtaXeGlYEfsX4YKZEzKFMSaRetGZ8j/r/jTnOFM= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=lst.de; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=lst.de; arc=none smtp.client-ip=213.95.11.211 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=lst.de Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=lst.de Received: by verein.lst.de (Postfix, from userid 2407) id 3F97E227AAA; Mon, 19 Jan 2026 07:48:58 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2026 07:48:57 +0100 From: hch To: Johannes Thumshirn Cc: hch , "linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org" , Damien Le Moal , Naohiro Aota , Hans Holmberg , David Sterba , WenRuo Qu Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 0/1] btrfs: don't allocate data off of conventional zones Message-ID: <20260119064857.GA1316@lst.de> References: <20260116095739.44201-1-johannes.thumshirn@wdc.com> <20260116145421.GC16842@lst.de> <9a37829c-cc94-4d4a-b732-834e1c68cc2c@wdc.com> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) On Sat, Jan 17, 2026 at 09:46:49AM +0000, Johannes Thumshirn wrote: > > The main intention behind this is, that we can handle metadata like > > metadata on regular non zoned devices, including the ability to > > overwrite it. But agreed I'd need to measure how much space we save this > > way. The second motivation is that we can remove the faking of > > sequential zones on conventional zones, aka the write pointer emulation > > etc.. > One thing we could do here (and it shouldn't be easy as well) is, > *prefer* sequential zones for data and conventional zones for metadata. Absolutely.