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From: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/25] xor: assert that xor_blocks is not called from interrupt context
Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2026 11:55:17 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260303195517.GC2846@sol> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260303160050.GB7021@lst.de>

On Tue, Mar 03, 2026 at 05:00:50PM +0100, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 27, 2026 at 03:24:55PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > >  	unsigned long *p1, *p2, *p3, *p4;
> > >  
> > > +	WARN_ON_ONCE(in_interrupt());
> > 
> > Your changelog makes it sound like you want:
> > 
> > 	WARN_ON_ONCE(!in_task());
> > 
> > But perhaps something like so:
> > 
> > 	lockdep_assert_preempt_enabled();
> > 
> > Would do? That ensures we are in preemptible context, which is much the
> > same. That also ensures the cost of this assertion is only paid on debug
> > kernels.
> 
> No idea honestly.  The kernel FPU/vector helpers generally don't work
> from irq context, and I want to assert that.  Happy to do whatever
> version works best for that.

may_use_simd() is the "generic" way to check "can the FPU/vector/SIMD
registers be used".  However, what it does varies by architecture, and
it's kind of a questionable abstraction in the first place.  It's used
mostly by architecture-specific code.

If you union together the context restrictions from all the
architectures, I think you get: "For may_use_simd() to be guaranteed not
to return false due to the context, the caller needs to be running in
task context without hardirqs or softirqs disabled."

However, some architectures also incorporate a CPU feature check in
may_use_simd() as well, which makes it return false if some
CPU-dependent SIMD feature is not supported.

Because of that CPU feature check, I don't think
"WARN_ON_ONCE(!may_use_simd())" would actually be correct here.

How about "WARN_ON_ONCE(!preemptible())"?  I think that covers the union
of the context restrictions correctly.  (Compared to in_task(), it
handles the cases where hardirqs or softirqs are disabled.)

Yes, it could be lockdep_assert_preemption_enabled(), but I'm not sure
"ensures the cost of this assertion is only paid on debug kernels" is
worth the cost of hiding this on production kernels.  The consequences
of using FPU/vector/SIMD registers when they can't be are very bad: some
random task's registers get corrupted.

- Eric

  reply	other threads:[~2026-03-03 19:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-02-26 15:10 cleanup the RAID5 XOR library Christoph Hellwig
2026-02-26 15:10 ` [PATCH 01/25] xor: assert that xor_blocks is not called from interrupt context Christoph Hellwig
2026-02-27 14:24   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-03-03 16:00     ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-03-03 19:55       ` Eric Biggers [this message]
2026-03-04 14:51         ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-03-04 15:15           ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-03-04 15:42             ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-03-04 15:01         ` Heiko Carstens
2026-03-04 15:06           ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-03-04 15:08           ` Heiko Carstens
2026-02-26 15:10 ` [PATCH 02/25] arm/xor: remove in_interrupt() handling Christoph Hellwig
2026-02-26 15:10 ` [PATCH 03/25] um/xor: don't override XOR_SELECT_TEMPLATE Christoph Hellwig
2026-02-26 21:45   ` Richard Weinberger
2026-02-26 22:00     ` hch
2026-02-27  7:39     ` Johannes Berg
2026-02-28  4:30   ` Eric Biggers
2026-03-02  7:38     ` Johannes Berg
2026-02-26 15:10 ` [PATCH 04/25] xor: move to lib/raid/ Christoph Hellwig
2026-02-28  4:35   ` Eric Biggers
2026-03-03 16:01     ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-02-26 15:10 ` [PATCH 05/25] xor: small cleanups Christoph Hellwig
2026-02-26 15:10 ` [PATCH 06/25] xor: cleanup registration and probing Christoph Hellwig
2026-02-28  4:41   ` Eric Biggers
2026-02-26 15:10 ` [PATCH 07/25] xor: split xor.h Christoph Hellwig
2026-02-28  4:43   ` Eric Biggers
2026-03-03 16:03     ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-03-03 16:15       ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-02-26 15:10 ` [PATCH 08/25] xor: remove macro abuse for XOR implementation registrations Christoph Hellwig
2026-02-26 15:10 ` [PATCH 09/25] xor: move generic implementations out of asm-generic/xor.h Christoph Hellwig
2026-02-26 15:40   ` Arnd Bergmann
2026-02-28  7:15   ` Eric Biggers
2026-03-03 16:09     ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-03-10 14:00       ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-02-26 15:10 ` [PATCH 10/25] alpha: move the XOR code to lib/raid/ Christoph Hellwig
2026-02-26 15:10 ` [PATCH 11/25] arm: " Christoph Hellwig
2026-02-26 15:10 ` [PATCH 12/25] arm64: " Christoph Hellwig
2026-02-26 15:10 ` [PATCH 13/25] loongarch: " Christoph Hellwig
2026-02-26 15:10 ` [PATCH 14/25] powerpc: " Christoph Hellwig
2026-02-26 15:10 ` [PATCH 15/25] riscv: " Christoph Hellwig
2026-02-28  5:37   ` Eric Biggers
2026-02-26 15:10 ` [PATCH 16/25] sparc: " Christoph Hellwig
2026-02-28  5:47   ` Eric Biggers
2026-03-03 16:04     ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-02-26 15:10 ` [PATCH 17/25] s390: " Christoph Hellwig
2026-02-27  9:09   ` Heiko Carstens
2026-02-27 14:13     ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-02-26 15:10 ` [PATCH 18/25] x86: " Christoph Hellwig
2026-02-27 14:30   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-27 23:55     ` Eric Biggers
2026-02-28 10:31       ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-03-03 16:05         ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-02-26 15:10 ` [PATCH 19/25] xor: avoid indirect calls for arm64-optimized ops Christoph Hellwig
2026-02-26 15:10 ` [PATCH 20/25] xor: make xor.ko self-contained in lib/raid/ Christoph Hellwig
2026-02-28  6:42   ` Eric Biggers
2026-03-03 16:06     ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-02-26 15:10 ` [PATCH 21/25] xor: add a better public API Christoph Hellwig
2026-02-28  6:50   ` Eric Biggers
2026-03-03 16:07     ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-03-10  6:58     ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-02-26 15:10 ` [PATCH 22/25] async_xor: use xor_gen Christoph Hellwig
2026-02-28  6:55   ` Eric Biggers
2026-02-26 15:10 ` [PATCH 23/25] btrfs: " Christoph Hellwig
2026-02-26 15:10 ` [PATCH 24/25] xor: pass the entire operation to the low-level ops Christoph Hellwig
2026-02-28  6:58   ` Eric Biggers
2026-03-03 16:09     ` Christoph Hellwig
2026-02-26 15:10 ` [PATCH 25/25] xor: use static_call for xor_gen Christoph Hellwig
2026-02-27 14:36   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-02-26 18:20 ` cleanup the RAID5 XOR library Andrew Morton
2026-02-28  7:35 ` Eric Biggers
2026-03-03 16:11   ` Christoph Hellwig

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