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From: Martin Steigerwald <Martin@lichtvoll.de>
To: Peter Waller <peter@scraperwiki.com>
Cc: Chris Samuel <chris@csamuel.org>, linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: ENOSPC with mkdir and rename
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 19:26:25 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2485127.sKlMmAdHLi@merkaba> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFChkqs3LOM4HmDzpXgs6YTeoXvyNPbsNWCPf74=_MnPneJ+HQ@mail.gmail.com>

Am Montag, 4. August 2014, 11:09:23 schrieb Peter Waller:
> On 4 August 2014 10:39, Chris Samuel <chris@csamuel.org> wrote:
> > On Mon, 4 Aug 2014 09:14:19 AM Peter Waller wrote:
> >> All of this is *very* surprising.
> > 
> > Hmm, it shouldn't be, the ENOSPC issues are well known and have been
> > discussed here for years.
> 
> I accept that. It's all very well if you read the BTRFS list and/or
> are a BTRFS developer. But if you're trying to work it out in the heat
> of battle, as we have sysadmins who would have to, there is a
> combination of things here that makes it unreasonable and harmful for
> production.

Well, maybe, just maybe… BTRFS is not yet ready for production use.

I installed it on a server recently, my own VM. And I am expect that I may 
need to fix up things there. And I did it with a *huge* free space margin. And 
still running Debian backport kernel 3.14. Won´t change it to 3.16 until I 
have seen that it runs nicely on my laptop again.

Test it on non critical servers – yes. Use it on critical production servers? 
My answer is a no for this. Despite partial support in SLES 11 SP 2 and 
support (partial?) for it in Oracle Unbreakable Linux.

BTRFS is just not yet there from my current experiences with it.

One thing that may get you covered up usually: Make it five times as large as 
the data you put on it and try to monitor for situation you better rebalance 
in advance.

-- 
Martin 'Helios' Steigerwald - http://www.Lichtvoll.de
GPG: 03B0 0D6C 0040 0710 4AFA  B82F 991B EAAC A599 84C7

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-08-10 17:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-08-02 23:35 ENOSPC with mkdir and rename Peter Waller
2014-08-03  0:28 ` Mitch Harder
2014-08-03  1:52   ` Nick Krause
2014-08-03  2:39 ` Russell Coker
2014-08-03  2:59   ` Nick Krause
2014-08-04  1:38 ` Qu Wenruo
2014-08-04  8:14   ` Peter Waller
2014-08-04  9:22     ` Clemens Eisserer
2014-08-04  9:39     ` Chris Samuel
2014-08-04  9:56       ` Clemens Eisserer
2014-08-04 10:24         ` Chris Samuel
2014-08-05  8:06           ` Duncan
2014-08-05 12:20             ` Russell Coker
2014-08-05 12:58               ` Clemens Eisserer
2014-08-05 13:02                 ` Peter Waller
2014-08-10 17:21                 ` Martin Steigerwald
2014-08-05 13:36               ` Chris Samuel
2014-08-06  0:04               ` Duncan
2014-08-06  0:38               ` ronnie sahlberg
2014-08-06  1:18                 ` Nick Krause
2014-08-04 10:09       ` Peter Waller
2014-08-04 10:22         ` Hugo Mills
2014-08-04 10:31           ` Peter Waller
2014-08-04 10:39             ` Hugo Mills
2014-08-04 10:48               ` Peter Waller
2014-08-04 11:29                 ` Hugo Mills
2014-08-04 17:09             ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2014-08-05  8:20               ` Duncan
2014-08-05 11:31                 ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2014-08-04 11:04           ` Clemens Eisserer
2014-08-04 11:32             ` Hugo Mills
2014-08-04 13:17               ` Peter Waller
2014-08-04 13:35                 ` Hugo Mills
2014-08-04 14:02                 ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2014-08-04 14:11                   ` Peter Waller
2014-08-04 14:26                     ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2014-08-04 14:47                 ` Russell Coker
2014-08-04 15:19                   ` Mitch Harder
2014-08-04 10:50         ` Chris Samuel
2014-08-04 10:59           ` Peter Waller
2014-08-04 21:27             ` Chris Samuel
2014-08-10 17:26         ` Martin Steigerwald [this message]
2014-08-05  8:51     ` Qu Wenruo
2014-08-05 12:17       ` Russell Coker

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