From: Gordan Bobic <gordan@bobich.net>
To: linux-btrfs <linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Offline Deduplication for Btrfs
Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 10:52:36 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D259EF4.504@bobich.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4D258D6A.9010903@wpkg.org>
Tomasz Chmielewski wrote:
>> I have been thinking a lot about de-duplication for a backup application
>> I am writing. I wrote a little script to figure out how much it would
>> save me. For my laptop home directory, about 100 GiB of data, it was a
>> couple of percent, depending a bit on the size of the chunks. With 4 KiB
>> chunks, I would save about two gigabytes. (That's assuming no MD5 hash
>> collisions.) I don't have VM images, but I do have a fair bit of saved
>> e-mail. So, for backups, I concluded it was worth it to provide an
>> option to do this. I have no opinion on whether it is worthwhile to do
>> in btrfs.
>
> Online deduplication is very useful for backups of big, multi-gigabyte
> files which change constantly.
> Some mail servers store files this way; some MUA store the files like
> this; databases are also common to pack everything in big files which
> tend to change here and there almost all the time.
>
> Multi-gigabyte files which only have few megabytes changed can't be
> hardlinked; simple maths shows that even compressing multiple files
> which have few differences will lead to greater space usage than a few
> megabytes extra in each (because everything else is deduplicated).
>
> And I don't even want to think about IO needed to offline dedup a
> multi-terabyte storage (1 TB disks and bigger are becoming standard
> nowadays) i.e. daily, especially when the storage is already heavily
> used in IO terms.
>
>
> Now, one popular tool which can deal with small changes in files is
> rsync. It can be used to copy files over the network - so that if you
> want to copy/update a multi-gigabyte file which only has a few changes,
> rsync would need to transfer just a few megabytes.
>
> On disk however, rsync creates a "temporary copy" of the original file,
> where it packs unchanged contents together with any changes made. For
> example, while it copies/updates a file, we will have:
>
> original_file.bin
> .temporary_random_name
>
> Later, original_file.bin would be removed, and .temporary_random_name
> would be renamed to original_file.bin. Here goes away any deduplication
> we had so far, we have to start the IO over again.
You can tell rsync to either modify the file in place (--inplace) or to
put the temp file somewhere else (--temp-dir=DIR).
Gordan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-01-06 10:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-01-06 9:37 Offline Deduplication for Btrfs Tomasz Chmielewski
2011-01-06 9:51 ` Mike Hommey
2011-01-06 16:57 ` Hubert Kario
2011-01-06 10:52 ` Gordan Bobic [this message]
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2011-01-16 0:18 Arjen Nienhuis
2011-01-05 16:36 Josef Bacik
2011-01-05 17:42 ` Gordan Bobic
2011-01-05 18:41 ` Diego Calleja
2011-01-05 19:01 ` Ray Van Dolson
2011-01-05 20:27 ` Gordan Bobic
2011-01-05 20:28 ` Josef Bacik
2011-01-05 20:25 ` Gordan Bobic
2011-01-05 21:14 ` Diego Calleja
2011-01-05 21:21 ` Gordan Bobic
2011-01-05 19:46 ` Josef Bacik
2011-01-05 19:58 ` Lars Wirzenius
2011-01-05 20:15 ` Josef Bacik
2011-01-05 20:34 ` Freddie Cash
2011-01-05 21:07 ` Lars Wirzenius
2011-01-05 20:12 ` Freddie Cash
2011-01-05 20:46 ` Gordan Bobic
[not found] ` <4D250B3C.6010708@shiftmail.org>
2011-01-06 1:03 ` Gordan Bobic
2011-01-06 1:56 ` Spelic
2011-01-06 10:39 ` Gordan Bobic
2011-01-06 3:33 ` Freddie Cash
2011-01-06 1:19 ` Spelic
2011-01-06 3:58 ` Peter A
2011-01-06 10:48 ` Gordan Bobic
2011-01-06 13:33 ` Peter A
2011-01-06 14:00 ` Gordan Bobic
2011-01-06 14:52 ` Peter A
2011-01-06 15:07 ` Gordan Bobic
2011-01-06 16:11 ` Peter A
2011-01-06 18:35 ` Chris Mason
2011-01-08 0:27 ` Peter A
2011-01-06 14:30 ` Tomasz Torcz
2011-01-06 14:49 ` Gordan Bobic
2011-01-06 1:29 ` Chris Mason
2011-01-06 10:33 ` Gordan Bobic
2011-01-10 15:28 ` Ric Wheeler
2011-01-10 15:37 ` Josef Bacik
2011-01-10 15:39 ` Chris Mason
2011-01-10 15:43 ` Josef Bacik
2011-01-06 12:18 ` Simon Farnsworth
2011-01-06 12:29 ` Gordan Bobic
2011-01-06 13:30 ` Simon Farnsworth
2011-01-06 14:20 ` Ondřej Bílka
2011-01-06 14:41 ` Gordan Bobic
2011-01-06 15:37 ` Ondřej Bílka
2011-01-06 8:25 ` Yan, Zheng
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