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From: Ric Wheeler <rwheeler@redhat.com>
To: Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>
Cc: NeilBrown <neilb@suse.de>, david <david@lang.hm>,
	Nico Schottelius <nico-lkml-20110623@schottelius.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-btrfs <linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	Alasdair G Kergon <agk@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: Mis-Design of Btrfs?
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 14:31:37 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E204139.5060702@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1310735821-sup-2589@shiny>

On 07/15/2011 02:20 PM, Chris Mason wrote:
> Excerpts from Ric Wheeler's message of 2011-07-15 08:58:04 -0400:
>> On 07/15/2011 12:34 PM, Chris Mason wrote:
> [ triggering IO retries on failed crc or other checks ]
>
>>> But, maybe the whole btrfs model is backwards for a generic layer.
>>> Instead of sending down ios and testing when they come back, we could
>>> just set a verification function (or stack of them?).
>>>
>>> For metadata, btrfs compares the crc and a few other fields of the
>>> metadata block, so we can easily add a compare function pointer and a
>>> void * to pass in.
>>>
>>> The problem is the crc can take a lot of CPU, so btrfs kicks it off to
>>> threading pools so saturate all the cpus on the box.  But there's no
>>> reason we can't make that available lower down.
>>>
>>> If we pushed the verification down, the retries could bubble up the
>>> stack instead of the other way around.
>>>
>>> -chris
>> I do like the idea of having the ability to do the verification and retries down
>> the stack where you actually have the most context to figure out what is possible...
>>
>> Why would you need to bubble back up anything other than an error when all
>> retries have failed?
> By bubble up I mean that if you have multiple layers capable of doing
> retries, the lowest levels would retry first.  Basically by the time we
> get an -EIO_ALREADY_RETRIED we know there's nothing that lower level can
> do to help.
>
> -chris

Absolutely sounds like the most sane way to go to me, thanks!

Ric


  reply	other threads:[~2011-07-15 13:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20110623105337.GD3753@ethz.ch>
     [not found] ` <20110627164637.377314e2@notabene.brown>
2011-06-29  9:29   ` Mis-Design of Btrfs? Ric Wheeler
2011-06-29 10:47     ` A. James Lewis
2011-07-14 20:47       ` Erik Jensen
2011-07-14  5:56     ` NeilBrown
2011-07-14  6:02       ` Ric Wheeler
2011-07-14  6:38         ` NeilBrown
2011-07-14  6:57           ` Ric Wheeler
2011-07-15  2:32             ` Chris Mason
2011-07-15  4:58               ` david
2011-07-15  6:33                 ` NeilBrown
2011-07-15 11:34                   ` Chris Mason
2011-07-15 12:58                     ` Ric Wheeler
2011-07-15 13:20                       ` Chris Mason
2011-07-15 13:31                         ` Ric Wheeler [this message]
2011-07-15 14:00                           ` Chris Mason
2011-07-15 14:07                             ` Hugo Mills
2011-07-15 14:24                               ` Chris Mason
2011-07-15 14:47                                 ` Christian Aßfalg
2011-07-15 14:54                                 ` Hugo Mills
2011-07-15 15:12                                   ` Chris Mason
2011-07-15 16:23                         ` david
2011-07-15 16:51                           ` Ric Wheeler
2011-07-15 17:01                             ` david
2011-07-15 17:23                               ` Ric Wheeler
2011-07-15 13:55                       ` Mike Snitzer
2011-07-15 16:03                   ` david
2011-07-14  9:37           ` Jan Schmidt
2011-07-14  9:55             ` NeilBrown
2011-07-14 16:27           ` Goffredo Baroncelli
2011-07-14 16:55           ` Alasdair G Kergon
2011-07-14 19:50             ` John Stoffel
2011-07-14 20:48               ` david
2011-07-14 20:50               ` Erik Jensen
2011-07-14 16:55           ` Alasdair G Kergon
2011-07-14  6:59         ` Arne Jansen

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