From: Jeff Mahoney <jeffm@suse.de>
To: Jeff Putney <jeffrey.putney@gmail.com>
Cc: Martin Steigerwald <Martin@lichtvoll.de>, linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Honest timeline for btrfsck
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 01:56:34 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E967D92.1070708@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+JuuGp1m9AJUDTiePpqrwqLVfOwSgHoSzRVrsY0O_fsNKDGgw@mail.gmail.com>
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On 10/12/2011 06:47 PM, Jeff Putney wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 2:53 PM, Martin Steigerwald
> <Martin@lichtvoll.de> wrote:
>> Am Mittwoch, 12. Oktober 2011 schrieb Jeff Putney:
>>>> I do not argue that having a nice fsck sooner than later is
>>>> fine, but I question the usefulness of repeating reminders.
>>>> Chris Mason and other developers possibly working on the fsck
>>>> should know by now, that you want it. So its unlikely that "I
>>>> want it too" is going to change anything.
>>>
>>> I haven't gotten the impression that Chris is quite that tone
>>> deaf, or inconsiderate of the opinions of the community at
>>> large. And the discussion you are commenting on was about
>>> releasing the source code, not the completed tool. I don't
>>> think anyone is saying that Chris needs to work harder and
>>> finish it faster. What we are saying is that it would be
>>> better for the progress of btrfs in general if the development
>>> of fsck were done in an open way, and available for others to
>>> contribute to. The main problem with your statement of "Chris
>>> Mason and other developers..." is that there does not appear to
>>> be any other developers at all. That's what we'd most like to
>>> see changed.
>>
>> Fair enough, but once again you are repeating that wish.
>>
>> I pretty much bet that Chris Mason is aware of this wish of yours
>> and other people already and the reasons for that wish. I has
>> been at least expressed for a dozen times on this thread.
>>
>> So again what is another dozen of times trying to achieve?
>>
>> This all reminds my of childs that ask their parents when they
>> will arrive every 10 seconds.
>
>
> If your driver keeps telling you that you're going to arrive in 10
> seconds, and it takes a child to start asking questions, maybe you
> should pay more attention and realize you just might be gettin
> shanghaied.
Are you serious? How much are you paying for that ride?
The first rule of open source software is that those who write the
code pick the features and set the schedule. Unless you're the one
writing the paycheck, your recourse is to write a competitive solution.
I'm with you in wanting an fsck tool, but as an open source developer,
I'm offended by the assertion that you think you have the right to
demand that Chris do anything.
The fact that you view Chris writing one as a deterrent for others
writing a fsck assumes two things: that it is forthcoming and that it
will be of better quality than your fsck solution.
If you think one or both of those things are true, then by all means,
write your own. Write it or stop acting like you have any right to
tell Chris what to do. Seriously.
- -Jeff
- --
Jeff Mahoney
SuSE Labs
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Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-08-03 6:57 Honest timeline for btrfsck Erik Jensen
2011-08-03 9:09 ` Jan Schmidt
2011-08-03 20:53 ` Chris Mason
2011-08-15 14:22 ` Francesco Riosa
2011-08-17 15:19 ` Dave
2011-08-18 1:09 ` Yalonda Gishtaka
2011-08-18 20:50 ` Chris Mason
2011-08-18 21:22 ` Hugo Mills
2011-08-26 0:39 ` Yalonda Gishtaka
2011-08-21 13:58 ` Maciej Marcin Piechotka
2011-08-25 15:06 ` Michael Cronenworth
2011-09-01 19:14 ` Michael Cronenworth
2011-09-01 20:20 ` Hugo Mills
2011-09-01 20:24 ` Michael Cronenworth
2011-09-01 20:34 ` Hugo Mills
2011-09-10 10:09 ` Martin Steigerwald
2011-09-13 18:01 ` Jeff Putney
2011-10-05 6:16 ` Chris Mason
2011-10-05 13:59 ` Jeff Putney
2011-10-05 14:58 ` Chris Mason
2011-10-06 15:31 ` Jeff Putney
2011-10-06 20:30 ` Andi Kleen
2011-10-06 20:33 ` Jeff Mahoney
2011-10-06 20:56 ` Francesco Riosa
2011-10-07 14:50 ` Josef Bacik
2011-10-07 15:22 ` Dave
2011-10-11 21:21 ` Francesco Riosa
2011-10-12 13:53 ` Josef Bacik
2011-10-13 12:57 ` Francesco Riosa
2011-10-13 13:02 ` Josef Bacik
2011-10-06 20:52 ` Randy Barlow
2011-10-06 23:20 ` Yalonda Gishtaka
2011-10-06 23:29 ` Chris Samuel
2011-10-07 4:30 ` Roman Mamedov
2011-10-07 2:25 ` Chester
2011-10-07 19:10 ` Asdo
2011-10-07 19:29 ` cwillu
2011-10-07 20:19 ` Diego Calleja
2011-10-08 21:13 ` Asdo
2011-10-09 1:19 ` Fajar A. Nugraha
2011-10-07 20:50 ` Helmut Hullen
2011-10-10 12:59 ` Chris Mason
2011-10-07 2:50 ` Chris Mason
2011-10-07 4:45 ` Jeff Mahoney
2011-10-07 13:40 ` Jeff Putney
2011-10-07 14:48 ` Josef Bacik
2011-10-07 15:58 ` Jeff Putney
2011-10-07 16:08 ` Josef Bacik
2011-10-07 17:07 ` Jeff Putney
2011-10-07 18:23 ` cwillu
2011-10-07 21:16 ` Jeff Putney
2011-10-10 12:55 ` Chris Mason
2011-10-13 11:28 ` Chris Samuel
2011-10-13 11:37 ` Hugo Mills
2011-10-07 15:39 ` Mike
2011-10-07 17:27 ` Gour-Gadadhara Dasa
2011-10-12 14:41 ` Martin Steigerwald
2011-10-12 18:57 ` Jeff Putney
2011-10-12 19:53 ` Martin Steigerwald
2011-10-12 22:47 ` Jeff Putney
2011-10-13 5:56 ` Jeff Mahoney [this message]
2011-10-13 15:51 ` Jeff Putney
2011-10-17 10:49 ` Chris Samuel
2011-10-31 10:53 ` David Summers
2011-11-30 10:19 ` Clemens Eisserer
2011-12-02 20:05 ` Jeff Putney
2012-01-06 23:03 ` Danny Piccirillo
2011-09-09 23:01 ` Yalonda Gishtaka
2011-09-23 13:51 ` Erik Jensen
2011-09-27 14:42 ` Jeff Putney
2011-09-27 18:00 ` Clemens Eisserer
2011-10-04 21:20 ` Jeff Putney
2012-01-17 15:07 ` David Summers
2012-01-18 1:13 ` Chris Mason
2012-03-28 6:15 ` Danny Piccirillo
2012-03-28 9:36 ` Duncan
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