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From: Konstantinos Skarlatos <k.skarlatos@gmail.com>
To: Chris Samuel <chris@csamuel.org>
Cc: linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] btrfs: allow cross-subvolume BTRFS_IOC_CLONE
Date: Fri, 06 Jan 2012 14:04:12 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F06E33C.8090104@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201112222324.16871.chris@csamuel.org>

On 22/12/2011 2:24 =CE=BC=CE=BC, Chris Samuel wrote:
> Christoph,
>
> On Sat, 2 Apr 2011 12:40:11 AM Chris Mason wrote:
>
>> Excerpts from Christoph Hellwig's message of 2011-04-01 09:34:05
> -0400:
>>
>>> I don't think it's a good idea to introduce any user visible
>>> operations over subvolume boundaries.  Currently we don't have
>>> any operations over mount boundaries, which is pretty
>>> fumdamental to the unix filesystem semantics.  If you want to
>>> change this please come up with a clear description of the
>>> semantics and post it to linux-fsdevel for discussion.  That of
>>> course requires a clear description of the btrfs subvolumes,
>>> which is still completely missing.
>>
>> The subvolume is just a directory tree that can be snapshotted, and
>> has it's own private inode number space.
>>
>> reflink across subvolumes is no different from copying a file from
>> one subvolume to another at the VFS level.  The src and
>> destination are different files and different inodes, they just
>> happen to share data extents.
>
> Were Chris Mason's points above enough to sway your opposition to thi=
s
> functionality/patch?
>
> There is demand for the ability to move data between subvolumes
> without needing to copy the extents themselves, it's cropped up again
> on the list in recent days.
>
> It seems a little hard (and counterintuitive) to enforce a wasteful
> use of resources to copy data between different parts of the same
> filesystem which happen to be a on a different subvolume when it's
> permitted&  functional to the same filesystem on the same subvolume.
>
> I don't dispute the comment about documentation on subvolumes though,
> there is a short discussion of them on the btrfs wiki in the sysadmin=
s
> guide, but not really a lot of detail. :-)
>
> All the best,
> Chris

Me too wants cp --reflink across subvolumes. Please make this feature=20
available to us, as its a "poor man's dedupe" and would give big space=20
savings for many use cases.
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  reply	other threads:[~2012-01-06 12:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-03-31  4:00 [PATCH 0/2] btrfs: allow cross-subvolume BTRFS_IOC_CLONE Larry D'Anna
2011-03-31  4:00 ` [PATCH 1/2] btrfs: remove unused argument 'root' from btrfs_release_path Larry D'Anna
2011-03-31  4:00 ` [PATCH 2/2] btrfs: allow cross-subvolume BTRFS_IOC_CLONE Larry D'Anna
2011-03-31  6:36 ` [PATCH 0/2] " Christoph Hellwig
2011-03-31  6:44   ` Arne Jansen
2011-03-31 12:02   ` Chris Mason
2011-04-01 13:34     ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-04-01 13:40       ` Chris Mason
2011-04-02  1:59         ` Fajar A. Nugraha
2011-12-22 12:24         ` Chris Samuel
2012-01-06 12:04           ` Konstantinos Skarlatos [this message]
2012-01-06 17:57             ` David Sterba
2012-01-09  6:58               ` Marios Titas
2012-01-09 13:31                 ` Jérôme Poulin
2012-01-19 16:52                   ` Jérôme Poulin
2011-04-02 15:51       ` Ken Drummond
2011-04-02 16:56         ` Larry D'Anna
2011-04-02 20:01           ` Jérôme Poulin
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2011-03-31 11:12 Tomasz Chmielewski

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