From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Chris Mason <chris.mason@fusionio.com>,
"Chris L. Mason" <clmason@fusionio.com>,
"linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org" <linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Subvolumes and /proc/self/mountinfo
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 08:59:36 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4FE1F368.4010904@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120620133429.GD4102@shiny>
On 06/20/2012 06:34 AM, Chris Mason wrote:
>>
>> I want an algorithm, it doesn't have an API per se. I would really like
>> to avoid relying on blkid and udev for this, though... that is pretty
>> much a nonstarter.
>>
>> If the answer is to walk the tree then I'm fine with that.
>
> Ok, fair enough.
>
>
> Right, the subvolume number doesn't change over the life of the subvol,
> regardless of the path that was used for mounting the subvol. So all
> you need is that number (64 bits) and the filename relative to the
> subvol root and you're set.
>
> We'll have to add an ioctl for that.
>
> Finding the path relative to the subvol is easy, just walk backwards up
> the directory chain (cd ..) until you get to inode number 256. All the
> subvol roots have inode number 256.
>
... assuming I can actually see the root (that it is not obscured
because of bindmounts and so on). Yes, I know I'm weird for worrying
about these hyper-obscure corner cases, but I have a pretty explicit
goal of trying to write Syslinux so it will very rarely if ever do the
wrong thing, and since I can already get that information for other
filesystems.
The other thing, of course, is what is the desirable behavior,which I
have brought up in a few posts already. Specifically, I see two
possibilities:
a. Always handle a path from the global root, and treat subvolumes as
directories. This would mostly require that the behavior of
/proc/self/mountinfo with regards to mount -o subvolid= would need
to be fixed. I also have no idea how one would deal with a detached
subvolume, or if that subcase even matters.
A major problem with this is that it may be *very* confusing to a
user to have to specify a path in their bootloader configuration as
/subvolume/foo/bar when the string "subvolume" doesn't show up in
any way in their normal filesystem.
b. Treat the subvolume as the root (which is what I so far have been
asssuming.) In this case, I think the <subvolume ID,
path_in_subvolume> ioctl is the way to go, unless there is a way
to do this with BTRFS_IOC_TREE_SEARCH already.
I think I'm leaning, still, at "b" just because of the very high
potential for user confusion with "a".
>>
>> Well, I'd be interested in what Kay's stuff actually does. Other than
>> that, I would suggest adding a pair of ioctls that when executed on an
>> arbitrary btrfs inode returns the corresponding subvolume and one which
>> returns the path relative to the subvolume root.
>
> udev already scans block devices as they appear. When it finds btrfs,
> it calls the btrfs dev scan ioctl for that one device. It also reads in
> the FS uuid and the device uuid and puts them into a tree.
>
> Very simple stuff, but it gets rid of the need to manually call btrfs
> dev scan yourself.
>
For the record, I implemented the use of BTRFS_IOC_DEV_INFO yesterday;
it is still way better than what I had there before and will make an
excellent fallback for a new ioctl.
This would be my suggestion for a new ioctl:
1. Add the device number to the information already returned by
BTRFS_IOC_DEV_INFO.
2. Allow returning more than one device at a time. Userspace can
already know the number of devices from BTRFS_IOC_FS_INFO(*), and
it'd be better to just size a buffer and return N items rather
having to iterate over the potentially sparse devid space.
I might write this one up if I can carve out some time today...
-hpa
(*) - because race conditions are still possible, a buffer size/limit
check is still needed.
--
H. Peter Anvin, Intel Open Source Technology Center
I work for Intel. I don't speak on their behalf.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-06-20 15:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-06-19 0:39 Subvolumes and /proc/self/mountinfo H. Peter Anvin
2012-06-19 14:22 ` Calvin Walton
2012-06-19 23:35 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-06-20 1:27 ` Fajar A. Nugraha
2012-06-20 8:21 ` Hugo Mills
2012-06-19 23:49 ` Chris Mason
2012-06-20 0:03 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-06-20 13:34 ` Chris Mason
2012-06-20 15:59 ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2012-06-20 0:39 ` Helmut Hullen
2012-06-20 1:16 ` cwillu
2012-06-20 3:22 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-06-20 6:31 ` Fajar A. Nugraha
2012-06-20 23:43 ` H. Peter Anvin
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