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From: Arne Jansen <sensille@gmx.net>
To: Liu Bo <liub.liubo@gmail.com>
Cc: Stefan Behrens <sbehrens@giantdisaster.de>,
	Jan Schmidt <list.btrfs@jan-o-sch.net>,
	linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] Btrfs: remove superblock writing after fatal error
Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2012 13:18:05 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <501A61ED.3000908@gmx.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <501A583D.8030600@gmail.com>

On 02.08.2012 12:36, Liu Bo wrote:
> On 08/02/2012 06:30 PM, Stefan Behrens wrote:
>> On Wed, 01 Aug 2012 16:31:54 +0200, Stefan Behrens wrote:
>>> On Wed, 01 Aug 2012 21:31:58 +0800, Liu Bo wrote:
>>>> On 08/01/2012 09:07 PM, Jan Schmidt wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, August 01, 2012 at 14:02 (+0200), Liu Bo wrote:
>>>>>> On 08/01/2012 07:45 PM, Stefan Behrens wrote:
>>>>>>> With commit acce952b0, btrfs was changed to flag the filesystem with
>>>>>>> BTRFS_SUPER_FLAG_ERROR and switch to read-only mode after a fatal
>>>>>>> error happened like a write I/O errors of all mirrors.
>>>>>>> In such situations, on unmount, the superblock is written in
>>>>>>> btrfs_error_commit_super(). This is done with the intention to be able
>>>>>>> to evaluate the error flag on the next mount. A warning is printed
>>>>>>> in this case during the next mount and the log tree is ignored.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The issue is that it is possible that the superblock points to a root
>>>>>>> that was not written (due to write I/O errors).
>>>>>>> The result is that the filesystem cannot be mounted. btrfsck also does
>>>>>>> not start and all the other btrfs-progs tools fail to start as well.
>>>>>>> However, mount -o recovery is working well and does the right things
>>>>>>> to recover the filesystem (i.e., don't use the log root, clear the
>>>>>>> free space cache and use the next mountable root that is stored in the
>>>>>>> root backup array).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This patch removes the writing of the superblock when
>>>>>>> BTRFS_SUPER_FLAG_ERROR is set, and removes the handling of the error
>>>>>>> flag in the mount function.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, I have to admit that this can be a serious problem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But we'll need to send the error flag stored in the super block into
>>>>>> disk in the future so that the next mount can find it unstable and do
>>>>>> fsck by itself maybe.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hum, that's possible. However, I neither see
>>>>>
>>>>> a) a safe way to get that flag to disk
>>>>>
>>>>> nor
>>>>>
>>>>> b) a situation where this flag would help. When we abort a transaction, we just
>>>>> roll everything back to the last commit, i.e. a consistent state. So if we stop
>>>>> writing a potentially corrupt super block, we should be fine anyway. Or am I
>>>>> missing something?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm just wondering if we can roll everything back well, why do we need fsck?
>>>
>>> If the disks support barriers, we roll everything back very well. The
>>> most recent superblock on the disks always defines a consistent
>>> filesystem state. There are only two remaining filesystem consistency
>>> issues left that can cause inconsistent states, one is the one that the
>>> patch in this email addresses, and the second one is that the error
>>> result from barrier_all_devices() is ignored (which I want to change next).
>>
>> Hi Liu Bo,
>>
>> Do you have any remaining objections to that patch?
>>
> 
> Hi Stefan,
> 
> Still I have another question:
> 
> Our metadata can be flushed into disk if we reach the limit, 32k, so we
> can end up with updated metadata and the latest superblock if we do not
> write the current super block.

The old metadata stays valid until the new superblock is written,
so no problem here, or maybe I don't understand your question :)

> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> thanks,
> liubo
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  reply	other threads:[~2012-08-02 11:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-08-01 11:45 [PATCH v2] Btrfs: remove superblock writing after fatal error Stefan Behrens
2012-08-01 12:02 ` Liu Bo
2012-08-01 13:07   ` Jan Schmidt
2012-08-01 13:31     ` Liu Bo
2012-08-01 13:56       ` Arne Jansen
2012-08-01 14:31       ` Stefan Behrens
2012-08-02 10:30         ` Stefan Behrens
2012-08-02 10:36           ` Liu Bo
2012-08-02 11:18             ` Arne Jansen [this message]
2012-08-02 11:34               ` Liu Bo
2012-08-02 11:40                 ` Arne Jansen
2012-08-02 11:57                   ` Liu Bo
2012-08-02 13:46                     ` Arne Jansen
2012-08-02 13:57                       ` David Sterba
2012-08-02 14:01                         ` Arne Jansen
2012-08-02 14:28                       ` Jan Schmidt
2012-08-03  3:20                         ` Liu Bo
2012-08-03  4:59                           ` Jan Schmidt
2012-08-02 15:06                       ` cwillu

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