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From: Liu Bo <liub.liubo@gmail.com>
To: Arne Jansen <sensille@gmx.net>
Cc: Stefan Behrens <sbehrens@giantdisaster.de>,
	Jan Schmidt <list.btrfs@jan-o-sch.net>,
	linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] Btrfs: remove superblock writing after fatal error
Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2012 19:34:17 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <501A65B9.5060004@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <501A61ED.3000908@gmx.net>

On 08/02/2012 07:18 PM, Arne Jansen wrote:
> On 02.08.2012 12:36, Liu Bo wrote:
>> On 08/02/2012 06:30 PM, Stefan Behrens wrote:
>>> On Wed, 01 Aug 2012 16:31:54 +0200, Stefan Behrens wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 01 Aug 2012 21:31:58 +0800, Liu Bo wrote:
>>>>> On 08/01/2012 09:07 PM, Jan Schmidt wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, August 01, 2012 at 14:02 (+0200), Liu Bo wrote:
>>>>>>> On 08/01/2012 07:45 PM, Stefan Behrens wrote:
>>>>>>>> With commit acce952b0, btrfs was changed to flag the filesystem with
>>>>>>>> BTRFS_SUPER_FLAG_ERROR and switch to read-only mode after a fatal
>>>>>>>> error happened like a write I/O errors of all mirrors.
>>>>>>>> In such situations, on unmount, the superblock is written in
>>>>>>>> btrfs_error_commit_super(). This is done with the intention to be able
>>>>>>>> to evaluate the error flag on the next mount. A warning is printed
>>>>>>>> in this case during the next mount and the log tree is ignored.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The issue is that it is possible that the superblock points to a root
>>>>>>>> that was not written (due to write I/O errors).
>>>>>>>> The result is that the filesystem cannot be mounted. btrfsck also does
>>>>>>>> not start and all the other btrfs-progs tools fail to start as well.
>>>>>>>> However, mount -o recovery is working well and does the right things
>>>>>>>> to recover the filesystem (i.e., don't use the log root, clear the
>>>>>>>> free space cache and use the next mountable root that is stored in the
>>>>>>>> root backup array).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This patch removes the writing of the superblock when
>>>>>>>> BTRFS_SUPER_FLAG_ERROR is set, and removes the handling of the error
>>>>>>>> flag in the mount function.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, I have to admit that this can be a serious problem.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But we'll need to send the error flag stored in the super block into
>>>>>>> disk in the future so that the next mount can find it unstable and do
>>>>>>> fsck by itself maybe.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hum, that's possible. However, I neither see
>>>>>>
>>>>>> a) a safe way to get that flag to disk
>>>>>>
>>>>>> nor
>>>>>>
>>>>>> b) a situation where this flag would help. When we abort a transaction, we just
>>>>>> roll everything back to the last commit, i.e. a consistent state. So if we stop
>>>>>> writing a potentially corrupt super block, we should be fine anyway. Or am I
>>>>>> missing something?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm just wondering if we can roll everything back well, why do we need fsck?
>>>>
>>>> If the disks support barriers, we roll everything back very well. The
>>>> most recent superblock on the disks always defines a consistent
>>>> filesystem state. There are only two remaining filesystem consistency
>>>> issues left that can cause inconsistent states, one is the one that the
>>>> patch in this email addresses, and the second one is that the error
>>>> result from barrier_all_devices() is ignored (which I want to change next).
>>>
>>> Hi Liu Bo,
>>>
>>> Do you have any remaining objections to that patch?
>>>
>>
>> Hi Stefan,
>>
>> Still I have another question:
>>
>> Our metadata can be flushed into disk if we reach the limit, 32k, so we
>> can end up with updated metadata and the latest superblock if we do not
>> write the current super block.
> 
> The old metadata stays valid until the new superblock is written,
> so no problem here, or maybe I don't understand your question :)
> 

Yeah, Arne, you're right :)

But for undetected and unexpected errors as Arne had mentioned,  I want
to keep the error flag which is able to inform users that this FS is
recommended (but not must) to do fsck at least.

thanks,
liubo

>>
>> Any ideas?
>>
>> thanks,
>> liubo
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  reply	other threads:[~2012-08-02 11:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-08-01 11:45 [PATCH v2] Btrfs: remove superblock writing after fatal error Stefan Behrens
2012-08-01 12:02 ` Liu Bo
2012-08-01 13:07   ` Jan Schmidt
2012-08-01 13:31     ` Liu Bo
2012-08-01 13:56       ` Arne Jansen
2012-08-01 14:31       ` Stefan Behrens
2012-08-02 10:30         ` Stefan Behrens
2012-08-02 10:36           ` Liu Bo
2012-08-02 11:18             ` Arne Jansen
2012-08-02 11:34               ` Liu Bo [this message]
2012-08-02 11:40                 ` Arne Jansen
2012-08-02 11:57                   ` Liu Bo
2012-08-02 13:46                     ` Arne Jansen
2012-08-02 13:57                       ` David Sterba
2012-08-02 14:01                         ` Arne Jansen
2012-08-02 14:28                       ` Jan Schmidt
2012-08-03  3:20                         ` Liu Bo
2012-08-03  4:59                           ` Jan Schmidt
2012-08-02 15:06                       ` cwillu

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