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From: Miao Xie <miaox@cn.fujitsu.com>
To: Chris Mason <chris.mason@fusionio.com>,
	Stefan Behrens <sbehrens@giantdisaster.de>,
	Bob Marley <bobmarley@shiftmail.org>
Cc: Wang Shilong <wangshilong1991@gmail.com>, linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Btrfs: fix race condition between writting and scrubing supers
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2013 18:42:34 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5268F99A.8010907@cn.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131024100842.14051.45479@localhost.localdomain>

On thu, 24 Oct 2013 06:08:42 -0400, Chris Mason wrote:
> Quoting Stefan Behrens (2013-10-23 13:21:34)
>> On Tue, 22 Oct 2013 18:55:59 +0200, Bob Marley wrote:
>>> On 22/10/2013 10:37, Stefan Behrens wrote:
>>>> I don't believe that this issue can ever happen. I don't believe that
>>>> somewhere on the path to the flash memory, to the magnetic disc or to
>>>> the drive's cache memory, someone interrupts a 4KB write in the middle
>>>> of operation to read from this 4KB area. This is not an issue IMHO.
>>>
>>> I think I have read that unfortunately it can happen.
>>> SAS and SATA specs for disks do not mandate that if a write is in-flight
>>> but still not completed, reads from the same sector should return the
>>> value it is being written; they can return the old value.
>>> I also think that Linux does not check either.
>>
>> If the _old_ 4KB block is returned, that's fine and won't cause a
>> checksum error.
>>
>> The patch in question addresses the case that Btrfs submits a write
>> request for a 4KB block, and a concurrent read request for that 4KB
>> block reads partially the old block and partially the new block,
>> resulting in a checksum error reported in the scrub statistic counters.
> 
> Concurrent reads and writes to the device are completely undefined, and
> Any combination of old, new, random memory corruption wouldn't
> surprise me...I'd rather avoid them ;)
> 
> Doing the transaction join during the super read is probably the least
> complex choice.

But it can not block the log tree sync, I think using device_list_mutex is
better since we should acquire this mutex when writing the super blocks and
we are sure that the super blocks are on non-volatile media on completion
after we unlock the mutex.

Thanks
Miao

> 
> -chris
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  reply	other threads:[~2013-10-24 10:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-10-19  4:17 [PATCH] Btrfs: fix race condition between writting and scrubing supers Wang Shilong
2013-10-19  8:50 ` Stefan Behrens
2013-10-19 10:32   ` Shilong Wang
2013-10-19 14:03     ` Stefan Behrens
2013-10-19 14:34       ` Wang Shilong
2013-10-20  4:03       ` Wang Shilong
2013-10-22  8:37         ` Stefan Behrens
2013-10-22 16:55           ` Bob Marley
2013-10-23 17:21             ` Stefan Behrens
2013-10-24 10:08               ` Chris Mason
2013-10-24 10:42                 ` Miao Xie [this message]
2013-10-24 11:32                 ` Wang Shilong
2013-10-25  2:14                   ` Miao Xie
2013-10-20  7:28       ` Bob Marley

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