From: Stan Hoeppner <stan@hardwarefreak.com>
To: John Williams <jwilliams4200@gmail.com>
Cc: NeilBrown <neilb@suse.de>, James Plank <plank@cs.utk.edu>,
Ric Wheeler <rwheeler@redhat.com>,
Andrea Mazzoleni <amadvance@gmail.com>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
Linux RAID Mailing List <linux-raid@vger.kernel.org>,
Btrfs BTRFS <linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org>,
David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no>,
David Smith <creamyfish@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Triple parity and beyond
Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2013 15:13:07 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <52926BE3.1000301@hardwarefreak.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJBj3vdKsmQ=ovG5LnoDz_DqLFp5+o_j0JUWtWTRP+jzbbZkhg@mail.gmail.com>
On 11/23/2013 11:14 PM, John Williams wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 8:03 PM, Stan Hoeppner <stan@hardwarefreak.com> wrote:
>
>> Parity array rebuilds are read-modify-write operations. The main
>> difference from normal operation RMWs is that the write is always to the
>> same disk. As long as the stripe reads and chunk reconstruction outrun
>> the write throughput then the rebuild speed should be as fast as a
>> mirror rebuild. But this doesn't appear to be what people are
>> experiencing. Parity rebuilds would seem to take much longer.
>
> "This" doesn't appear to be what SOME people, who have reported
> issues, are experiencing. Their issues must be examined on a case by
> case basis.
Given what you state below this may very well be the case.
> But I, and a number of other people I have talked to or corresponded
> with, have had mdadm RAID 5 or RAID 6 rebuilds of one drive run at
> approximately the optimal sequential write speed of the replacement
> drive. It is not unusual on a reasonably configured system.
I freely admit I may have drawn an incorrect conclusion about md parity
rebuild performance based on incomplete data. I simply don't recall
anyone stating here in ~3 years that their parity rebuilds were speedy,
but quite the opposite. I guess it's possible that each one of those
cases was due to another factor, such as user load, slow CPU, bus
bottleneck, wonky disk firmware, backplane issues, etc.
--
Stan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-11-24 21:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-11-18 22:08 Triple parity and beyond Andrea Mazzoleni
2013-11-18 22:12 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-11-18 22:35 ` Andrea Mazzoleni
2013-11-18 23:25 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-11-19 10:16 ` David Brown
2013-11-19 17:36 ` Andrea Mazzoleni
2013-11-19 22:51 ` Drew
2013-11-20 0:54 ` Chris Murphy
2013-11-20 1:23 ` John Williams
2013-11-20 10:35 ` David Brown
2013-11-20 10:31 ` David Brown
2013-11-20 18:09 ` John Williams
2013-11-20 18:44 ` Andrea Mazzoleni
2013-11-21 6:15 ` Stan Hoeppner
2013-11-21 8:32 ` David Brown
2013-11-20 18:34 ` Andrea Mazzoleni
2013-11-20 18:43 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-11-20 18:56 ` Andrea Mazzoleni
2013-11-20 18:59 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-11-20 21:21 ` Andrea Mazzoleni
2013-11-20 19:00 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-11-20 21:04 ` Andrea Mazzoleni
2013-11-20 21:06 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-11-21 8:36 ` David Brown
2013-11-19 17:28 ` Andrea Mazzoleni
2013-11-19 20:29 ` Ric Wheeler
2013-11-20 16:16 ` James Plank
2013-11-20 19:05 ` Andrea Mazzoleni
2013-11-20 19:10 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-11-20 20:30 ` James Plank
2013-11-20 21:23 ` Andrea Mazzoleni
2013-11-27 2:50 ` ronnie sahlberg
2013-11-20 21:28 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-11-21 1:28 ` Stan Hoeppner
2013-11-21 2:46 ` John Williams
2013-11-21 6:52 ` Stan Hoeppner
2013-11-21 7:05 ` John Williams
2013-11-21 22:57 ` Stan Hoeppner
2013-11-21 23:38 ` John Williams
2013-11-22 9:35 ` Stan Hoeppner
2013-11-22 15:01 ` John Williams
2013-11-22 22:28 ` Stan Hoeppner
2013-11-22 23:07 ` NeilBrown
2013-11-23 3:46 ` Stan Hoeppner
2013-11-23 5:04 ` NeilBrown
2013-11-23 5:34 ` John Williams
2013-11-23 7:12 ` NeilBrown
2013-11-24 4:03 ` Stan Hoeppner
2013-11-24 5:14 ` John Williams
2013-11-24 21:13 ` Stan Hoeppner [this message]
2013-11-24 23:28 ` Rudy Zijlstra
[not found] ` <l6u3h9$l72$2@ger.gmane.org>
2013-11-25 2:04 ` Stan Hoeppner
2013-11-25 9:15 ` David Brown
2013-11-24 5:19 ` Russell Coker
2013-11-24 21:44 ` Stan Hoeppner
2013-11-24 22:31 ` Mark Knecht
2013-11-25 2:14 ` Russell Coker
2013-11-25 9:20 ` David Brown
2013-11-21 8:08 ` joystick
2013-11-22 0:30 ` Stan Hoeppner
2013-11-22 0:33 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-11-22 0:45 ` David Brown
2013-11-21 9:07 ` David Brown
2013-11-21 9:54 ` Adam Goryachev
2013-11-21 10:32 ` David Brown
2013-11-22 8:12 ` Russell Coker
2013-11-25 18:23 ` Pasi Kärkkäinen
2013-11-22 8:13 ` Stan Hoeppner
2013-11-22 13:15 ` David Brown
2013-11-22 16:07 ` Stan Hoeppner
2013-11-22 22:59 ` NeilBrown
2013-11-23 17:39 ` David Brown
2013-11-22 16:50 ` Mark Knecht
2013-11-22 19:51 ` Duncan
2013-11-22 8:38 ` Stan Hoeppner
2013-11-22 13:24 ` David Brown
2013-11-28 7:16 ` Stan Hoeppner
2013-11-28 7:36 ` Russell Coker
2013-11-28 9:56 ` David Brown
2013-11-21 19:56 ` Piergiorgio Sartor
2013-11-19 18:12 ` Piergiorgio Sartor
2013-11-20 10:44 ` David Brown
2013-11-20 21:59 ` Piergiorgio Sartor
2013-11-21 10:13 ` David Brown
2013-11-21 17:37 ` Goffredo Baroncelli
2013-11-21 20:05 ` Piergiorgio Sartor
2013-11-21 20:31 ` David Brown
2013-11-21 20:52 ` Piergiorgio Sartor
2013-11-22 0:32 ` David Brown
2013-11-22 20:32 ` Piergiorgio Sartor
2013-11-26 18:10 ` joystick
2013-11-20 21:38 ` Andrea Mazzoleni
2013-11-20 22:29 ` Piergiorgio Sartor
2013-11-23 7:55 ` Andrea Mazzoleni
2013-11-23 22:10 ` Piergiorgio Sartor
2013-11-24 9:39 ` Andrea Mazzoleni
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