From: Wang Shilong <wangsl.fnst@cn.fujitsu.com>
To: dsterba@suse.cz, Miao Xie <miaox@cn.fujitsu.com>,
linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/4] Btrfs: fix protection between send and root deletion
Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 16:44:14 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <52DF84DE.6080904@cn.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140121181626.GC6498@twin.jikos.cz>
Hi David,
On 01/22/2014 02:16 AM, David Sterba wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 10:32:38AM +0800, Miao Xie wrote:
>>> Your fix makes sure that the deleted root will not get cleaned and stays
>>> during the send. Only after it finishes it will be cleaned. Now, what if
>>> send fails or is interrupted? There's no way to redo it. Yes the user
>>> can be blamed for the mistake, or the tools will prevent him to do it.
>> I don't think so. The users should be responsible for their behavior if they
>> destroy the subvolume.
> Right now it's not possible to determine if a subvolume is involved in a
> send (other than the user knows by himself that he started send). Send
> or subvolume cleaning can be performed on the background. Although the
> user is responsible for his actions, the consequence here is not
> obvious, silent and irreversible.
>
>>> I see the latter as more user-friendly. Doing a 'send and forget' where
>>> I don't care if the data will be sent properly does not fit the primary
>>> purpose of send/receive with backups.
>>>
>>> My idea to fix that:
>>> - add an internal root_item flag to denote a dead root
>>> - set this flag in btrfs_add_dead_root()
>>> - check the flag in send similar to the btrfs_root_readonly checks, for
>>> all involved roots
>>> - in 'destroy subvolume, check if the send_in_progress is set and refuse
>>> to delete
>> It is similar to our approach. But I think our idea is better because
>> - we needn't add a new flag
> Adding the flag is cheap.
>
>> - The subvolumes are special directory, the most operations of them should
>> be similar to the common directory. Since we can remove a directory while
>> someone is accessing it, it is better that we can destroy a subvolume
>> while we are using it as a send parent.
> Yes they're similar, but subvolumes have additional features that need
> to be handled appropriately. One cannot send a directory.
>
> So we disagree, I see a reason for the deletion protection and will do
> the patch myself. Let's see if we can get more user feedback then.
>
> I'm NAKing this patch in current state, if it helps anything.
Both ways are ok for me actually, don't be annoyed anyway,
You and Miao are really doing a good job to Btrfs, just go ahead, i
am ok with dropping this patch.^_^
Thanks,
Wang
>
>
> david
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-01-22 8:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-01-07 9:25 [PATCH v2 1/4] Btrfs: fix wrong send_in_progress accounting Wang Shilong
2014-01-07 9:25 ` [PATCH v2 2/4] Btrfs: fix protection between send and root deletion Wang Shilong
2014-01-13 18:27 ` David Sterba
2014-01-14 2:22 ` Miao Xie
2014-01-15 16:40 ` David Sterba
2014-01-16 2:32 ` Miao Xie
2014-01-21 18:16 ` David Sterba
2014-01-22 8:44 ` Wang Shilong [this message]
2014-01-22 12:43 ` David Sterba
2014-01-08 12:16 ` [PATCH v2 1/4] Btrfs: fix wrong send_in_progress accounting David Sterba
2014-01-08 15:09 ` Wang Shilong
2014-01-13 18:40 ` David Sterba
2014-01-14 11:52 ` Wang Shilong
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