From: Eric Sandeen <sandeen@redhat.com>
To: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
Cc: Eric Sandeen <sandeen@sandeen.net>,
dsterba@suse.cz, Koen De Wit <koen.de.wit@oracle.com>,
xfs@oss.sgi.com, linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] xfstests: test for atime-related mount options
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 21:02:08 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <52FED8B0.6040009@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140215013931.GT13647@dastard>
On 2/14/14, 7:39 PM, Dave Chinner wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 05:48:59PM -0600, Eric Sandeen wrote:
>> On 2/14/14, 4:24 PM, Dave Chinner wrote:
>>> On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 10:41:16AM -0600, Eric Sandeen wrote:
>>>> On 2/14/14, 10:39 AM, David Sterba wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 10:42:55AM -0600, Eric Sandeen wrote:
>>>>>>> +cat /proc/mounts | grep "$SCRATCH_MNT" | grep relatime >> $seqres.full
>>>>>>> +[ $? -ne 0 ] && echo "The relatime mount option should be the default."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ok, I guess "relatime" in /proc/mounts is from core vfs code and
>>>>>> should be there for the foreseeable future, so seems ok.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But - relatime was added in v2.6.20, and made default in 2.6.30. So
>>>>>> testing older kernels may not go as expected; it'd probably be best to
>>>>>> catch situations where relatime isn't available (< 2.6.20) or not
>>>>>> default (< 2.6.30), by explicitly mounting with relatime, and skipping
>>>>>> relatime/strictatime tests if that fails?
>>>>>
>>>>> Is there some consensus what's the lowest kernel version to be supported
>>>>> by xfstests? 2.6.32 is the lowest base for kernels in use today, so
>>>>> worrying about anything older does not seem necessary.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I don't know that it's been discussed - selfishly, I know our QE uses
>>>> xfstests on RHEL5, which is 2.6.18-based.
>>>
>>> Sure, but they can just add the test to a "rhel5-expunged" file and
>>> they don't have to care about tests that won't work on RHEL 5 or
>>> other older kernels. Or to send patches to add "_requires_relatime"
>>> so that it automatically does the right thing for older kernels.
>>
>> sure but some of this test is still valid on a kernel w/o relatime.
>> And since it's the default, "relatime" might disappear from /proc/mounts
>> some day anyway, so explicitly mounting with the option & failing
>> if that fails might be good future-proofind in any case.
>>
>> *shrug*
>>
>> It was just a request, not a demand. :) Koen, you can do with
>> it whatever you like. Reviews aren't ultimatums. :)
>>
>> If xfstests upstream is only targeted at the current kernel, that's
>> fine, but maye we should make that a little more explicit.
>
> That's not what I meant. ;)
>
> Really, all I'm saying is that we can't expect people who are
> writing tests that work on current kernels to know what is necessary
> to make tests work on 7 year old distros that don't support a
> feature that has been in mainline for 5 years. Hence that shouldn't
> be a barrier to having a test committed as we have mechanisms for
> distro QE to handle these sorts of issues...
Sure, that's perfectly fair.
I wasn't really thinking of RHEL5 when I made my first comment,
just general portability across kernels. dsterba suggested that
2.6.32 is the oldest kernel used, and I pointed out that we do
still use 2.6.18. :)
Anyway, for general portability across releases, perhaps rather than:
+cat /proc/mounts | grep "$SCRATCH_MNT" | grep relatime >> $seqres.full
+[ $? -ne 0 ] && echo "The relatime mount option should be the default."
which would fail the test, it should just [notrun] if relatime
isn't there, for any reason, on any kernel, if relatime is not
default as expected for the test framework. i.e.
+[ $? -ne 0 ] && _notrun "The relatime mount option is not the default."
-Eric
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-02-15 3:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-02-13 15:23 [PATCH] xfstests: test for atime-related mount options Koen De Wit
2014-02-13 16:42 ` Eric Sandeen
2014-02-14 16:39 ` David Sterba
2014-02-14 16:41 ` Eric Sandeen
2014-02-14 16:53 ` David Sterba
2014-02-14 22:24 ` Dave Chinner
2014-02-14 23:48 ` Eric Sandeen
2014-02-15 1:39 ` Dave Chinner
2014-02-15 3:02 ` Eric Sandeen [this message]
2014-02-15 22:29 ` Dave Chinner
2014-02-17 20:25 ` Koen De Wit
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