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From: Goffredo Baroncelli <kreijack@inwind.it>
To: Lennart Poettering <lennart@poettering.net>
Cc: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net>,
	linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org, systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
Subject: Re: [systemd-devel] Slow startup of systemd-journal on BTRFS
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2014 18:32:53 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <539F1C35.6060302@inwind.it> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140615221307.GE24386@tango.0pointer.de>

Hi Lennart,

On 06/16/2014 12:13 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> I am not really following though why this trips up btrfs though. I am
> not sure I understand why this breaks btrfs COW behaviour. I mean,
> fallocate() isn't necessarily supposed to write anything really, it's
> mostly about allocating disk space in advance. I would claim that
> journald's usage of it is very much within the entire reason why it
> exists...

I performed several tests, trying different setups [1]. One of these was replacing the posix_fallocate() with a truncate, to check where is the problem. The conclusion was that *posix_fallocate() is NOT the problem*.

In another reply you stated that systemd-journald appends some data at the end of file, then update some data in the middle. I think this is the reason because the file becomes quickly fragmented.


[1] Let me to revise the english, the I will post the results.


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-06-16 16:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-06-12 11:13 R: Re: Slow startup of systemd-journal on BTRFS Goffredo Baroncelli <kreijack@libero.it>
2014-06-12 12:37 ` Duncan
2014-06-12 23:24   ` Dave Chinner
2014-06-13 22:19     ` Goffredo Baroncelli
2014-06-14  2:53       ` Duncan
2014-06-14  7:52         ` Goffredo Baroncelli
2014-06-15  5:43           ` Duncan
2014-06-15 22:39             ` [systemd-devel] " Lennart Poettering
2014-06-15 22:13           ` Lennart Poettering
2014-06-16  0:17             ` Russell Coker
2014-06-16  1:06               ` John Williams
2014-06-16  2:19                 ` Russell Coker
2014-06-16 10:14               ` Lennart Poettering
2014-06-16 10:35                 ` Russell Coker
2014-06-16 11:16                   ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2014-06-16 11:56                 ` Andrey Borzenkov
2014-06-16 16:05                 ` Josef Bacik
2014-06-16 19:52                   ` Martin
2014-06-16 20:20                     ` Josef Bacik
2014-06-17  0:15                     ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2014-06-17  1:13                     ` cwillu
2014-06-17 12:24                       ` Martin
2014-06-17 17:56                       ` Chris Murphy
2014-06-17 18:46                       ` Filipe Brandenburger
2014-06-17 19:42                         ` Goffredo Baroncelli
2014-06-17 21:12                   ` Lennart Poettering
2014-06-16 16:32             ` Goffredo Baroncelli [this message]
2014-06-16 18:47               ` Goffredo Baroncelli
2014-06-19  1:13             ` Dave Chinner
2014-06-14 10:59         ` Kai Krakow
2014-06-15  5:02           ` Duncan
2014-06-15 11:18             ` Kai Krakow
2014-06-15 21:45           ` Martin Steigerwald
2014-06-15 21:51             ` Hugo Mills
2014-06-15 22:43           ` [systemd-devel] " Lennart Poettering
2014-06-15 21:31         ` Martin Steigerwald
2014-06-15 21:37           ` Hugo Mills
2014-06-17  8:22           ` Duncan
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2014-06-11 21:28 Goffredo Baroncelli
2014-06-12  1:21 ` Dave Chinner
2014-06-12  1:37   ` Dave Chinner
2014-06-12  2:32     ` Chris Murphy
2014-06-15 22:34       ` [systemd-devel] " Lennart Poettering
2014-06-16  4:01         ` Chris Murphy
2014-06-16  4:38           ` cwillu

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