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From: Goffredo Baroncelli <kreijack@libero.it>
To: linux-btrfs <linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [systemd-devel] Slow startup of systemd-journal on BTRFS
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2014 21:42:40 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <53A09A30.2030800@libero.it> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CADU+-uCQe+ThvH8EOW0tn+Oh4ZNnSP0P743mF7NXNDuD2yokCA@mail.gmail.com>

On 06/17/2014 08:46 PM, Filipe Brandenburger wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 6:13 PM, cwillu <cwillu@cwillu.com> wrote:
>> For the case of sequential writes (via write or mmap), padding writes
>> to page boundaries would help, if the wasted space isn't an issue.
>> Another approach, again assuming all other writes are appends, would
>> be to periodically (but frequently enough that the pages are still in
>> cache) read a chunk of the file and write it back in-place, with or
>> without an fsync. On the other hand, if you can afford to lose some
>> logs on a crash, not fsyncing/msyncing after each write will also
>> eliminate the fragmentation.
> 
> I was wondering if something could be done in btrfs to improve
> performance under this workload... Something like a "defrag on demand"
> for a case where mostly appends are happening.

Instead of inventing a strategy smarter than the (already smart) filesystem, would be more simple make an explicit defrag ?

In any case this "smart strategy" is filesystem specific, so it would be more simple (and less error prone) do an explicit defrag.

I tried this strategy with systemd-journald, getting good results (doing a ioctl BTRFS_IOC_DEFRAG during the journal opening).

BR
G.Baroncelli

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  reply	other threads:[~2014-06-17 19:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-06-12 11:13 R: Re: Slow startup of systemd-journal on BTRFS Goffredo Baroncelli <kreijack@libero.it>
2014-06-12 12:37 ` Duncan
2014-06-12 23:24   ` Dave Chinner
2014-06-13 22:19     ` Goffredo Baroncelli
2014-06-14  2:53       ` Duncan
2014-06-14  7:52         ` Goffredo Baroncelli
2014-06-15  5:43           ` Duncan
2014-06-15 22:39             ` [systemd-devel] " Lennart Poettering
2014-06-15 22:13           ` Lennart Poettering
2014-06-16  0:17             ` Russell Coker
2014-06-16  1:06               ` John Williams
2014-06-16  2:19                 ` Russell Coker
2014-06-16 10:14               ` Lennart Poettering
2014-06-16 10:35                 ` Russell Coker
2014-06-16 11:16                   ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2014-06-16 11:56                 ` Andrey Borzenkov
2014-06-16 16:05                 ` Josef Bacik
2014-06-16 19:52                   ` Martin
2014-06-16 20:20                     ` Josef Bacik
2014-06-17  0:15                     ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2014-06-17  1:13                     ` cwillu
2014-06-17 12:24                       ` Martin
2014-06-17 17:56                       ` Chris Murphy
2014-06-17 18:46                       ` Filipe Brandenburger
2014-06-17 19:42                         ` Goffredo Baroncelli [this message]
2014-06-17 21:12                   ` Lennart Poettering
2014-06-16 16:32             ` Goffredo Baroncelli
2014-06-16 18:47               ` Goffredo Baroncelli
2014-06-19  1:13             ` Dave Chinner
2014-06-14 10:59         ` Kai Krakow
2014-06-15  5:02           ` Duncan
2014-06-15 11:18             ` Kai Krakow
2014-06-15 21:45           ` Martin Steigerwald
2014-06-15 21:51             ` Hugo Mills
2014-06-15 22:43           ` [systemd-devel] " Lennart Poettering
2014-06-15 21:31         ` Martin Steigerwald
2014-06-15 21:37           ` Hugo Mills
2014-06-17  8:22           ` Duncan
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2014-06-11 21:28 Goffredo Baroncelli
2014-06-12  1:21 ` Dave Chinner
2014-06-12  1:37   ` Dave Chinner
2014-06-12  2:32     ` Chris Murphy
2014-06-15 22:34       ` [systemd-devel] " Lennart Poettering
2014-06-16  4:01         ` Chris Murphy
2014-06-16  4:38           ` cwillu

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