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From: Austin S Hemmelgarn <ahferroin7@gmail.com>
To: russell@coker.com.au, linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: No space on empty, degraded raid10
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 07:19:00 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <54118524.1010006@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201409111640.23845.russell@coker.com.au>

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On 2014-09-11 02:40, Russell Coker wrote:
> On Mon, 8 Sep 2014, Austin S Hemmelgarn <ahferroin7@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Also, I've found out the hard way that system chunks really should be
>> RAID1, NOT RAID10, otherwise it's very likely that the filesystem
>> won't mount at all if you lose 2 disks.
> 
> Why would that be different?
> 
> In a RAID-1 you expect system problems if 2 disks fail, why would RAID-10 be 
> different?
That's still the case, but in a RAID1 with four disks, of the six
different pairs of two disks you could lose, only one will make the
filesystem un-mountable, whereas for a four disk RAID10, there are two
different pairs of two disks you could lose to make the filesystem
un-mountable.  In haven't run the numbers for higher numbers of disks,
but things are likely not better, because if you lose both copies of the
same stripe, things will fail.
> 
> Also it would be nice if there was a N-way mirror option for system data.  As 
> such data is tiny (32MB on the 120G filesystem in my workstation) the space 
> used by having a copy on every disk in the array shouldn't matter.
> 
N-way mirroring is in the queue for after RAID5/6 work; ideally, once it
is ready, mkfs should default to one copy per disk in the filesystem.


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  reply	other threads:[~2014-09-11 11:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-09-07 20:38 No space on empty, degraded raid10 Or Tal
2014-09-08 11:01 ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2014-09-11  6:40   ` Russell Coker
2014-09-11 11:19     ` Austin S Hemmelgarn [this message]
2014-09-11 11:38       ` Hugo Mills
2014-09-11 12:06         ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2014-09-11 12:10           ` Hugo Mills

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