From: Austin S Hemmelgarn <ahferroin7@gmail.com>
To: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net>, linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: What is the vision for btrfs fs repair?
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2014 08:07:51 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <54367A97.3080106@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <pan$3113d$a3bae425$2c8363e3$ea9c68d9@cox.net>
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On 2014-10-09 07:53, Duncan wrote:
> Austin S Hemmelgarn posted on Thu, 09 Oct 2014 07:29:23 -0400 as
> excerpted:
>
>> Also, you should be running btrfs scrub regularly to correct bit-rot
>> and force remapping of blocks with read errors. While BTRFS
>> technically handles both transparently on reads, it only corrects thing
>> on disk when you do a scrub.
>
> AFAIK that isn't quite correct. Currently, the number of copies is
> limited to two, meaning if one of the two is bad, there's a 50% chance of
> btrfs reading the good one on first try.
>
> If btrfs reads the good copy, it simply uses it. If btrfs reads the bad
> one, it checks the other one and assuming it's good, replaces the bad one
> with the good one both for the read (which otherwise errors out), and by
> overwriting the bad one.
>
> But here's the rub. The chances of detecting that bad block are
> relatively low in most cases. First, the system must try reading it for
> some reason, but even then, chances are 50% it'll pick the good one and
> won't even notice the bad one.
>
> Thus, while btrfs may randomly bump into a bad block and rewrite it with
> the good copy, scrub is the only way to systematically detect and (if
> there's a good copy) fix these checksum errors. It's not that btrfs
> doesn't do it if it finds them, it's that the chances of finding them are
> relatively low, unless you do a scrub, which systematically checks the
> entire filesystem (well, other than files marked nocsum, or nocow, which
> implies nocsum, or files written when mounted with nodatacow or
> nodatasum).
>
> At least that's the way it /should/ work. I guess it's possible that
> btrfs isn't doing those routine "bump-into-it-and-fix-it" fixes yet, but
> if so, that's the first /I/ remember reading of it.
I'm not 100% certain, but I believe it doesn't actually fix things on
disk when it detects an error during a read, I know it doesn't it the fs
is mounted ro (even if the media is writable), because I did some
testing to see how 'read-only' mounting a btrfs filesystem really is.
Also, that's a much better description of how multiple copies work than
I could probably have ever given.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-10-09 12:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-10-08 19:11 What is the vision for btrfs fs repair? Eric Sandeen
2014-10-09 11:29 ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2014-10-09 11:53 ` Duncan
2014-10-09 11:55 ` Hugo Mills
2014-10-09 12:07 ` Austin S Hemmelgarn [this message]
2014-10-09 12:12 ` Hugo Mills
2014-10-09 12:32 ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
[not found] ` <107Y1p00G0wm9Bl0107vjZ>
2014-10-09 12:34 ` Duncan
2014-10-09 13:18 ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2014-10-09 13:49 ` Duncan
2014-10-09 15:44 ` Eric Sandeen
[not found] ` <0zvr1p0162Q6ekd01zvtN0>
2014-10-09 12:42 ` Duncan
2014-10-10 1:58 ` Chris Murphy
2014-10-10 3:20 ` Duncan
2014-10-10 10:53 ` Bob Marley
2014-10-10 10:59 ` Roman Mamedov
2014-10-10 11:12 ` Bob Marley
2014-10-10 15:18 ` cwillu
2014-10-10 14:37 ` Chris Murphy
2014-10-10 17:43 ` Bob Marley
2014-10-10 17:53 ` Bardur Arantsson
2014-10-10 19:35 ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2014-10-10 22:05 ` Eric Sandeen
2014-10-13 11:26 ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2014-10-12 10:14 ` Martin Steigerwald
2014-10-12 23:59 ` Duncan
2014-10-13 11:37 ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2014-10-13 11:48 ` Rich Freeman
2014-10-11 7:29 ` Goffredo Baroncelli
2014-11-17 20:55 ` Phillip Susi
2014-10-12 10:06 ` Martin Steigerwald
2014-10-12 10:17 ` Martin Steigerwald
2014-10-13 21:09 ` Josef Bacik
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