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From: Bob Marley <bobmarley@shiftmail.org>
To: linux-btrfs <linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: What is the vision for btrfs fs repair?
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2014 13:12:35 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5437BF23.6030000@shiftmail.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20141010165902.36262e8e@natsu>

On 10/10/2014 12:59, Roman Mamedov wrote:
> On Fri, 10 Oct 2014 12:53:38 +0200
> Bob Marley <bobmarley@shiftmail.org> wrote:
>
>> On 10/10/2014 03:58, Chris Murphy wrote:
>>>> * mount -o recovery
>>>> 	"Enable autorecovery attempts if a bad tree root is found at mount time."
>>> I'm confused why it's not the default yet. Maybe it's continuing to evolve at a pace that suggests something could sneak in that makes things worse? It is almost an oxymoron in that I'm manually enabling an autorecovery
>>>
>>> If true, maybe the closest indication we'd get of btrfs stablity is the default enabling of autorecovery.
>> No way!
>> I wouldn't want a default like that.
>>
>> If you think at distributed transactions: suppose a sync was issued on
>> both sides of a distributed transaction, then power was lost on one
>> side
> What distributed transactions? Btrfs is not a clustered filesystem[1], it does
> not support and likely will never support being mounted from multiple hosts at
> the same time.
>
> [1]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clustered_file_system
>

This is not the only way to do a distributed transaction.
Databases can be hosted on the filesystem, and those can do distributed 
transations.
Think of two bank accounts, one on btrfs fs1 here, and another bank 
account on database on a whatever filesystem in another country. You 
want to debit one account and credit the other one: the filesystems at 
the two sides *must not rollback their state* !! (especially not 
transparently without human intervention)


  reply	other threads:[~2014-10-10 11:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-10-08 19:11 What is the vision for btrfs fs repair? Eric Sandeen
2014-10-09 11:29 ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2014-10-09 11:53   ` Duncan
2014-10-09 11:55     ` Hugo Mills
2014-10-09 12:07     ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2014-10-09 12:12       ` Hugo Mills
2014-10-09 12:32         ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
     [not found]     ` <107Y1p00G0wm9Bl0107vjZ>
2014-10-09 12:34       ` Duncan
2014-10-09 13:18         ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2014-10-09 13:49           ` Duncan
2014-10-09 15:44             ` Eric Sandeen
     [not found]     ` <0zvr1p0162Q6ekd01zvtN0>
2014-10-09 12:42       ` Duncan
2014-10-10  1:58 ` Chris Murphy
2014-10-10  3:20   ` Duncan
2014-10-10 10:53   ` Bob Marley
2014-10-10 10:59     ` Roman Mamedov
2014-10-10 11:12       ` Bob Marley [this message]
2014-10-10 15:18         ` cwillu
2014-10-10 14:37     ` Chris Murphy
2014-10-10 17:43       ` Bob Marley
2014-10-10 17:53         ` Bardur Arantsson
2014-10-10 19:35         ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2014-10-10 22:05           ` Eric Sandeen
2014-10-13 11:26             ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2014-10-12 10:14       ` Martin Steigerwald
2014-10-12 23:59         ` Duncan
2014-10-13 11:37         ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2014-10-13 11:48         ` Rich Freeman
2014-10-11  7:29     ` Goffredo Baroncelli
2014-11-17 20:55       ` Phillip Susi
2014-10-12 10:06   ` Martin Steigerwald
2014-10-12 10:17 ` Martin Steigerwald
2014-10-13 21:09 ` Josef Bacik

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