From: Robert White <rwhite@pobox.com>
To: Richard Sharpe <realrichardsharpe@gmail.com>
Cc: Austin S Hemmelgarn <ahferroin7@gmail.com>,
Chris Murphy <lists@colorremedies.com>,
Btrfs BTRFS <linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Can BTRFS handle XATTRs larger than 4K?
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2014 16:08:12 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5498B26C.5010908@pobox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACyXjPyVNGQLc6g4jGnDo=FM20qoyAfsk96zrkQfCYrjhOvMFg@mail.gmail.com>
On 12/22/2014 02:55 PM, Richard Sharpe wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 2:52 PM, Robert White <rwhite@pobox.com> wrote:
>> So skipping the full ADS, what's the current demand/payoff for large XATTR space?
>
> Windows Security Descriptors (sometimes incorrectly called ACLs)
> stored by Samba.
Ah.
I know that Linux ACLs are fairly small per entry, I take it Windows'
can be much bigger?
Having just gone off an read a lot about the many ADS possible in
windows, they've sort of treated ever file as if it were the name of a
phantom directory limited depth... That is you seem to be able to create
any name as a stream name but you can't create any pathname as same.
The system-level API -- that is the complete retooling of SYS_open et al
-- and the requsite departure from POSIX -- seems unlikely.
On the antipode, it seems like being able to put an inode reference key
type (e.g. a name,inode pair as one of the metadata entries) could
relieve the space constraint for a limited number of entires. The
contents of that inode's data region would become the value of the
single attribute.
Does that relieve Security Descriptor burden? Is each descriptor a
separate attribute or are all the descriptors held in one attribute as a
list-of?
Going full "phantom directory" to match Windows just seems like we get
into the business of replacing whole kernel tidbits a la the
inner-system effect.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-12-23 0:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-12-20 2:07 Can BTRFS handle XATTRs larger than 4K? Richard Sharpe
2014-12-20 8:38 ` Chris Murphy
2014-12-22 11:38 ` Chris Samuel
2014-12-22 11:41 ` Chris Samuel
2014-12-22 14:28 ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2014-12-22 17:27 ` Richard Sharpe
2014-12-22 18:09 ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2014-12-22 18:43 ` Chris Murphy
2014-12-22 19:56 ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2014-12-22 20:06 ` Richard Sharpe
2014-12-22 20:44 ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2014-12-22 20:50 ` Richard Sharpe
2014-12-22 22:52 ` Robert White
2014-12-22 22:55 ` Richard Sharpe
2014-12-23 0:08 ` Robert White [this message]
2014-12-23 1:16 ` Richard Sharpe
2014-12-23 12:37 ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2014-12-22 23:15 ` ronnie sahlberg
2014-12-22 23:55 ` Robert White
2014-12-22 23:58 ` Richard Sharpe
2014-12-23 0:11 ` Robert White
2014-12-22 20:04 ` Richard Sharpe
2014-12-22 20:33 ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
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