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From: Cameron Berkenpas <cam@neo-zeon.de>
To: bo.li.liu@oracle.com
Cc: linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: System crash while scrubbing on 3.18.x
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2015 10:19:42 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <550710AE.4040803@neo-zeon.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <54FA081A.8010501@neo-zeon.de>

Minor update:

I've now tested 4.0-rc4 on systems. Both systems lockup during a scrub.

I've also tested a laptop with 4.0-rc4 and I have no issues. It could be 
that I "only" have 221GB on it, that it's an SSD, and/or the lack of a 
3ware controller.

Within the next few days, I hope to have the time to test on a btrfs 
RAID1 system I have (btrfs RAID) as well.

-Cameron

On 03/06/2015 12:03 PM, Cameron Berkenpas wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I should have mentioned this earlier. I get absolutely nothing in the 
> logs. I can't look at dmesg either as the system is completely 
> unresponsive.
>
> On 03/06/2015 04:30 AM, Liu Bo wrote:
>> On Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 05:18:21PM -0800, Cameron Berkenpas wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> Sorry for the long email...
>>>
>>> I've found my system locks up when scrubbing with 3.18.x, but not
>>> with 3.17.8 across 2 systems.
>>>
>>> I have the following BTRFS partitions on system 1:
>>> /  (128GiB, 49GiB used on SSD)
>>> /home (4.2TiB, 624GB used on HDD RAID volume)
>>>
>>> I have the following BTRFS partitions on system 2:
>>> / (196GiB, 17GiB used on HDD RAID volume)
>>> /home (7.1TiB, 2.9TiB used on HDD RAID volume)
>>>
>>> My OS is Netrunner 15 (which 98% Kubuntu) on system 1, and
>>> up-to-date debian testing on system 2.
>>>
>>> I've never encountered a lock up while scrubbing /. Just with /home.
>>>
>>> The systems never lock up immediately, but takes some time. VERY
>>> rarely I'll see the lockup when the scrub is at <100GiB completed.
>>> Typically it happens somewhere between 200-350GiB. A few times it's
>>> gone beyond 500GiB. This is probably why I've never encountered the
>>> issue with /, it's just not big enough on either system.
>>>
>>> Both systems were otherwise idle while performing the scrubs that
>>> crashed the systems.
>>>
>>> /home is on a partition on a RAID10 volume on a 3ware 9740-4i
>>> controller with 4x 3TB disks on system 1. On system 2, it's the same
>>> controller but with 4x 4TB disks (and / on system 2 is a partition
>>> on the same RAID volume rather than a separate disk). Both systems
>>> have 32GiB memory, and the otherwise the hardware is pretty
>>> different between the systems (AMD Vs. Intel, etc).
>>>
>>> I suspect that the RAID controller probably isn't relevant. Both
>>> arrays and their drives are healthy.
>>>
>>> I've also encountered the issue on a freshly formatted filesystem
>>> with my data copied from a backup on system 1.
>>>
>>> I've tried tried scrubbing with btrfs-progs 3.17 (installed from the
>>> distribution repos on both systems), and btrfs-progs from git (using
>>> tag v3.18.x). Neither version made a difference.
>>>
>>> In case this is helpful to anyone, here's how I've discovered the 
>>> issue:
>>> I decided to test btrfs with bcache on system 1 to see if the
>>> stability had improved since I'd tried bcache+btrfs about a year
>>> ago. I backed up /home on system 1 and then freshly formatted it and
>>> set it to use bcache. I was running Linux 3.18.8 and encountered the
>>> problem that I've described above. I assumed the bcache+btrfs
>>> combination was still broken so I formatted the system again (this
>>> time still using btrfs, but without bcache) and copied all my files
>>> back. I encountered the same issue without bcache. Realizing the
>>> issue wasn't bcache related, I did ANOTHER format, this time back to
>>> bcache+btrfs.
>>>
>>>  From here in my testing, I found that system 2 (which has no bcache)
>>> also crashed when scrubbing with Linux 3.18.8. I decided to try
>>> 3.17.8 on system 1 (since 3.18.8 seemed to be the common denominator
>>> between the 2 systems), found that fixed the issue, and then
>>> downgraded system 2 to use 3.17.8 as well, which also fixed the
>>> issue there.
>>>
>>> (Note: At one point I also tried Linux 3.18.7 and 3.18.5, however,
>>> those kernels are affected by the scrub/crash issue as well.)
>>>
>>> I found something else interesting when I tested against Linux
>>> 3.19.0. With 3.19.0, the bcache system always crashes fairly early
>>> in the scrub (<100GiB), but the non-bcache system has no issues.
>>> This suggests my problem with 3.19.0 is a bcache+btrfs issue (or
>>> simply an issue with bcache).
>>>
>>> I'm not sure if bcache is relevant to the BTRFS devs at this point,
>>> but I thought I'd put that there for anyone who might find that
>>> information useful.
>>>
>>> To summarize:
>>> I've tested with 2 systems, and scrubbing caused crashes occurred on
>>> both with Linux 3.18.8, but not with 3.17.8 for both systems
>>> I've tested 1 system with and without bcache, and bcache made no
>>> difference between Linux 3.17.8 and 3.18.8.
>>> I've tested with 3.19.0, and I crash when scrubbing on the bcache
>>> system, but not the non-bcache system.
>> Better to have some stacks about the scrub crash.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> -liubo
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  reply	other threads:[~2015-03-16 17:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-03-06  1:18 System crash while scrubbing on 3.18.x Cameron Berkenpas
2015-03-06 12:30 ` Liu Bo
2015-03-06 20:03   ` Cameron Berkenpas
2015-03-16 17:19     ` Cameron Berkenpas [this message]
2015-03-17 17:26       ` Cameron Berkenpas
2015-03-18  1:47         ` Duncan

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