From: Austin S Hemmelgarn <ahferroin7@gmail.com>
To: Chris Murphy <lists@colorremedies.com>, Gert Menke <gert@menke.ac>
Cc: Btrfs BTRFS <linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: BTRFS as image store for KVM?
Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2015 10:13:29 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <55FC1C09.7030006@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJCQCtR_3eiWWmpJHC9RT4EJOzUb_AmrQkkm0X4R0OE4FYUHMQ@mail.gmail.com>
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On 2015-09-17 14:35, Chris Murphy wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 11:56 AM, Gert Menke <gert@menke.ac> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> thank you for your answers!
>>
>> So it seems there are several suboptimal alternatives here...
>>
>> MD+LVM is very close to what I want, but md has no way to cope with silent
>> data corruption. So if I'd want to use a guest filesystem that has no
>> checksums either, I'm out of luck.
>
> You can use Btrfs in the guest to get at least notification of SDC. If
> you want recovery also then that's a bit more challenging. The way
> this has been done up until ZFS and Btrfs is T10 DIF (PI). There are
> already checksums on the drive, but this adds more checksums that can
> be confirmed through the entire storage stack, not just internal to
> the drive hardware.
>
> Another way is to put a conventional fs image on e.g. GlusterFS with
> checksumming enabled (and at least distributed+replicated filtering).
>
> If you do this directly on Btrfs, maybe you can mitigate some of the
> fragmentation issues with bcache or dmcache; and for persistent
> snapshotting, use qcow2 to do it instead of Btrfs. You'd use Btrfs
> snapshots to create a subvolume for doing backups of the images, and
> then get rid of the Btrfs snapshot.
>
>
The other option (which for some reason I almost never see anyone
suggest), is to expose 2 disks to the guest (ideally stored on different
filesystems), and do BTRFS raid1 on top of that. In general, this is
what I do (except I use LVM for the storage back-end instead of a
filesystem) when I have data integrity requirements in the guest. On
the other hand of course, most of my VM's are trivial for me to
recreate, so I don't often need this and just use DM-RAID via LVm.
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Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-09-15 21:34 BTRFS as image store for KVM? Gert Menke
2015-09-16 3:00 ` Chris Murphy
2015-09-16 3:57 ` Duncan
2015-09-16 11:35 ` Brendan Heading
2015-09-16 12:25 ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-09-16 12:41 ` Paul Jones
2015-09-17 17:56 ` Gert Menke
2015-09-17 18:35 ` Chris Murphy
2015-09-17 21:32 ` Gert Menke
2015-09-18 2:00 ` Duncan
2015-09-18 8:32 ` Gert Menke
2015-09-23 7:28 ` Russell Coker
2015-09-18 14:13 ` Austin S Hemmelgarn [this message]
2015-09-23 7:24 ` Russell Coker
2015-09-17 18:46 ` Mike Fleetwood
2015-09-17 19:43 ` Hugo Mills
2015-09-17 21:49 ` Gert Menke
2015-09-18 2:22 ` Duncan
2015-09-18 8:59 ` Gert Menke
2015-09-17 22:41 ` Sean Greenslade
2015-09-18 7:34 ` Gert Menke
2015-09-17 4:19 ` Paul Harvey
2015-09-20 1:26 ` Jim Salter
2015-09-25 12:48 ` Rich Freeman
2015-09-25 12:56 ` Jim Salter
2015-09-25 13:04 ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
[not found] ` <5605483A.7040103@jrs-s.net>
2015-09-25 13:46 ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-09-25 13:52 ` Jim Salter
2015-09-25 14:02 ` Timofey Titovets
2015-09-25 14:20 ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-09-29 14:12 ` Gert Menke
2015-10-02 4:21 ` Russell Coker
2015-10-02 12:07 ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-10-03 8:32 ` Russell Coker
2015-10-04 2:09 ` Duncan
2015-10-04 12:03 ` Lionel Bouton
2015-10-04 12:21 ` Rich Freeman
2015-10-05 8:19 ` Duncan
2015-10-05 8:43 ` Erkki Seppala
2015-10-05 8:51 ` Roman Mamedov
2015-10-05 11:16 ` Lionel Bouton
2015-10-05 11:40 ` Rich Freeman
2015-10-05 11:54 ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
[not found] ` <RPG31r00t34oj7R01PG5Us>
2015-10-05 14:04 ` Duncan
2015-10-05 15:59 ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
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