From: Lionel Bouton <lionel-subscription@bouton.name>
To: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net>, linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: BTRFS as image store for KVM?
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2015 14:03:36 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <56111598.2080403@bouton.name> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <pan$e9b6$f764fa8a$deeffa51$be52ef68@cox.net>
Hi,
Le 04/10/2015 04:09, Duncan a écrit :
> Russell Coker posted on Sat, 03 Oct 2015 18:32:17 +1000 as excerpted:
>
>> Last time I checked a BTRFS RAID-1 filesystem would assign each process
>> to read from one disk based on it's PID. Every RAID-1 implementation
>> that has any sort of performance optimisation will allow a single
>> process that's reading to use both disks to some extent.
>>
>> When the BTRFS developers spend some serious effort optimising for
>> performance it will be useful to compare BTRFS and ZFS.
> This is the example I use as to why btrfs isn't really stable, as well.
> Devs tend to be very aware of the dangers of premature optimization,
> because done too early, it either means throwing that work away when a
> rewrite comes, or it severely limits options as to what can be rewritten,
> if necessary, in ordered to avoid throwing all that work that went into
> optimization away.
>
> So at least for devs that have been around awhile, that don't have some
> boss that's paying the bills saying optimize now, an actually really good
> mark of when the /devs/ consider something stable, is when they start
> focusing on that optimization.
This focus on single reader RAID1 performance surprises me.
1/ AFAIK the kernel md RAID1 code behaves the same (last time I checked
you need 2 processes to read from 2 devices at once) and I've never seen
anyone arguing that the current md code is unstable.
2/ I'm not familiar with implementations taking advantage of several
disks for single process reads but clearly they'll have more problems
with seeks on rotating devices to solve. So are there really
implementations with better performance across the spectrum or do they
have to pay a performance penalty in the mutiple readers case to
optimize the (arguably less frequent/important) single reader case ?
Best regards,
Lionel
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-10-04 12:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-09-15 21:34 BTRFS as image store for KVM? Gert Menke
2015-09-16 3:00 ` Chris Murphy
2015-09-16 3:57 ` Duncan
2015-09-16 11:35 ` Brendan Heading
2015-09-16 12:25 ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-09-16 12:41 ` Paul Jones
2015-09-17 17:56 ` Gert Menke
2015-09-17 18:35 ` Chris Murphy
2015-09-17 21:32 ` Gert Menke
2015-09-18 2:00 ` Duncan
2015-09-18 8:32 ` Gert Menke
2015-09-23 7:28 ` Russell Coker
2015-09-18 14:13 ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-09-23 7:24 ` Russell Coker
2015-09-17 18:46 ` Mike Fleetwood
2015-09-17 19:43 ` Hugo Mills
2015-09-17 21:49 ` Gert Menke
2015-09-18 2:22 ` Duncan
2015-09-18 8:59 ` Gert Menke
2015-09-17 22:41 ` Sean Greenslade
2015-09-18 7:34 ` Gert Menke
2015-09-17 4:19 ` Paul Harvey
2015-09-20 1:26 ` Jim Salter
2015-09-25 12:48 ` Rich Freeman
2015-09-25 12:56 ` Jim Salter
2015-09-25 13:04 ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
[not found] ` <5605483A.7040103@jrs-s.net>
2015-09-25 13:46 ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-09-25 13:52 ` Jim Salter
2015-09-25 14:02 ` Timofey Titovets
2015-09-25 14:20 ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-09-29 14:12 ` Gert Menke
2015-10-02 4:21 ` Russell Coker
2015-10-02 12:07 ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-10-03 8:32 ` Russell Coker
2015-10-04 2:09 ` Duncan
2015-10-04 12:03 ` Lionel Bouton [this message]
2015-10-04 12:21 ` Rich Freeman
2015-10-05 8:19 ` Duncan
2015-10-05 8:43 ` Erkki Seppala
2015-10-05 8:51 ` Roman Mamedov
2015-10-05 11:16 ` Lionel Bouton
2015-10-05 11:40 ` Rich Freeman
2015-10-05 11:54 ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
[not found] ` <RPG31r00t34oj7R01PG5Us>
2015-10-05 14:04 ` Duncan
2015-10-05 15:59 ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
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