From: Austin S Hemmelgarn <ahferroin7@gmail.com>
To: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net>, linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Expected behavior of bad sectors on one drive in a RAID1
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2015 08:07:46 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <56278012.2060206@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <56277C4A.70300@gmail.com>
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On 2015-10-21 07:51, Austin S Hemmelgarn wrote:
> On 2015-10-20 15:59, Austin S Hemmelgarn wrote:
>> On 2015-10-20 15:20, Duncan wrote:
>>> Yes, there's some small but not infinitesimal chance the checksum may be
>>> wrong, but if there's two copies of the data and the checksum on one is
>>> wrong while the checksum on the other verifies... yes, there's still
>>> that
>>> small chance that the one that verifies is wrong too, but that it's any
>>> worse than the one that does not verify? /That's/ getting close to
>>> infinitesimal, or at least close enough for the purposes of a mailing-
>>> list claim without links to supporting evidence by someone who has
>>> already characterized it as not mathematically rigorous... and for me,
>>> personally. I'm not spending any serious time thinking about getting
>>> hit
>>> by lightening, either, tho by the same token I don't go out flying kites
>>> or waving long metal rods around in lightning storms, either.
>> With a 32-bit checksum and a 4k block (the math is easier with smaller
>> numbers), that's 4128 bits, which means that a random single bit error
>> will have a approximately 0.24% chance of occurring in a given bit,
>> which translates to an approximately 7.75% chance that it will occur in
>> one of the checksum bits. For a 16k block it's smaller of course
>> (around 1.8% I think, but that's just a guess), but it's still
>> sufficiently statistically likely that it should be considered.
> As mentioned in my other reply to this, I did the math wrong (bit of a
> difference between kilobit and kilobyte)
And I realize of course right after sending this that my other reply
didn't get through because GMail refuses to send mail in plain text, no
matter how hard I beat it over the head...
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-10-21 12:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-10-20 4:16 Expected behavior of bad sectors on one drive in a RAID1 james harvey
2015-10-20 4:45 ` Russell Coker
2015-10-20 13:00 ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-10-20 13:15 ` Russell Coker
2015-10-20 13:59 ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-10-20 19:20 ` Duncan
2015-10-20 19:59 ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-10-20 20:54 ` Tim Walberg
2015-10-21 11:51 ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-10-21 12:07 ` Austin S Hemmelgarn [this message]
2015-10-21 16:01 ` Chris Murphy
2015-10-21 17:28 ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-10-20 18:54 ` Duncan
2015-10-20 19:48 ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-10-20 21:24 ` Duncan
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