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From: Austin S Hemmelgarn <ahferroin7@gmail.com>
To: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net>, linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/15] btrfs: Hot spare and Auto replace
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2015 07:13:39 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5641DF73.7030309@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <pan$24d10$91cf318$b08c3c88$ac288e4@cox.net>

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On 2015-11-09 16:29, Duncan wrote:
> Austin S Hemmelgarn posted on Mon, 09 Nov 2015 09:09:07 -0500 as
> excerpted:
>
>>>    btrfs fi show
>>>    Label: none  uuid: 52f170c1-725c-457d-8cfd-d57090460091
>>>     Total devices 2 FS bytes used 112.00KiB
>>>     devid    1 size 2.00GiB used 417.50MiB path /dev/sdc
>>>     devid    2 size 2.00GiB used 417.50MiB path /dev/sdd
>>>
>>>    Global spare
>>>     device size 3.00GiB path /dev/sde
>
> First of all, thanks from me too, AJ, for this very nice new feature. =:^)
>
>> Would I be correct in assuming that we can have more than one hot-spare
>> device at a time?  If so, what method is used to select which one to use
>> when one is needed?
>
> In the later patches overview section, patches 10,11,12,13/15 paragraph,
> AJ mentions a helper function to pick/release a spare device from/to the
> spare devices pool.  That would appear to be patch 13, provide framework
> to get and put a spare device.
>
> Which means yes, multiple hot-spares are (at least planned to be)
> allowed. =:^)
Ah, you're right, somehow I missed that bit.
>
> While I'm not a coder and could very well be misinterpreting this,
> however, reading the btrfs_get_spare_device function in patch 13, there's
> a comment that goes like this:
>
>>> /* as of now there is only one device in the spare fs_devices */
>
> I don't read C well enough to know whether that's a comment on the
> internal progress in the function (tho I don't see any obvious hints to
> indicate that), or whether it can be taken at face value, that right now
> there's only provision for one in the "pool" (seems the more obvious
> interpretation).
>
> So unless my lack of C skills is deceiving me, while a pool is intended,
> current patch implementation status simply assumes a spare pool of one,
> and the first spare found is picked. The put function in the same patch
> doesn't appear to have a limit on the number of spares that can be added,
> so assuming the current pool implementation allows it, more than one
> spare can be added to the pool, but as I said, the get function appears
> to assume just one in the pool, so picks the first spare it finds.
AFAICT, you are correct.  I hadn't yet gotten a chance to look at the 
actual code, so I hadn't seen this yet.
>
> At least at the non-enterprise level, size-similar picking logic would
> seem to be pretty useful if not feature critical, then, and given that
> it /should/ be reasonably simple to implement, I'd hope that doing so
> becomes a priority, tho certainly an initial first-pick base
> implementation to which size-similar logic can be added later, is fine as
> well.  I'd just hope that "later" is within a couple kernel cycles, not a
> couple kernel major version cycles (~4 years each with bumps at .20).
>
Hopefully, per-filesystem hot-spares will be a high priority too, as 
that type of usage is pretty much required for many enterprise type 
uses, although that doesn't need to be the same code doing it (in fact, 
I could see having per-fs spares and global spares both available 
potentially being very useful).


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  reply	other threads:[~2015-11-10 12:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-11-09 10:56 [PATCH 00/15] btrfs: Hot spare and Auto replace Anand Jain
2015-11-09 10:56 ` [PATCH 01/15] btrfs: Introduce a new function to check if all chunks a OK for degraded mount Anand Jain
2015-11-09 10:56 ` [PATCH 02/15] btrfs: Do per-chunk check for mount time check Anand Jain
2015-11-09 10:56 ` [PATCH 03/15] btrfs: Do per-chunk degraded check for remount Anand Jain
2015-11-09 10:56 ` [PATCH 04/15] btrfs: Allow barrier_all_devices to do per-chunk device check Anand Jain
2015-11-09 10:56 ` [PATCH 05/15] btrfs: optimize btrfs_check_degradable() for calls outside of barrier Anand Jain
2015-11-09 10:56 ` [PATCH 06/15] btrfs: Cleanup num_tolerated_disk_barrier_failures Anand Jain
2015-12-05  7:16   ` Qu Wenruo
2015-11-09 10:56 ` [PATCH 07/15] btrfs: introduce device dynamic state transition to offline or failed Anand Jain
2015-11-09 10:56 ` [PATCH 08/15] btrfs: check device for critical errors and mark failed Anand Jain
2015-11-09 10:56 ` [PATCH 09/15] btrfs: block incompatible optional features at scan Anand Jain
2015-11-09 10:56 ` [PATCH 10/15] btrfs: introduce BTRFS_FEATURE_INCOMPAT_SPARE_DEV Anand Jain
2015-11-09 10:56 ` [PATCH 11/15] btrfs: add check not to mount a spare device Anand Jain
2015-11-09 10:56 ` [PATCH 12/15] btrfs: support btrfs dev scan for " Anand Jain
2015-11-09 10:56 ` [PATCH 13/15] btrfs: provide framework to get and put a " Anand Jain
2015-11-09 10:56 ` [PATCH 14/15] btrfs: introduce helper functions to perform hot replace Anand Jain
2015-11-09 10:56 ` [PATCH 15/15] btrfs: check for failed device and " Anand Jain
2015-11-09 10:58 ` [PATCH 0/4] btrfs-progs: Hot spare and Auto replace Anand Jain
2015-11-09 10:58   ` [PATCH 1/4] btrfs-progs: Introduce BTRFS_FEATURE_INCOMPAT_SPARE_DEV SB flags Anand Jain
2015-11-09 10:58   ` [PATCH 2/4] btrfs-progs: Introduce btrfs spare subcommand Anand Jain
2015-11-09 10:58   ` [PATCH 3/4] btrfs-progs: add fi show for spare Anand Jain
2015-11-09 10:58   ` [PATCH 4/4] btrfs-progs: add global spare device list to filesystem show Anand Jain
2015-11-09 14:09 ` [PATCH 00/15] btrfs: Hot spare and Auto replace Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-11-09 21:29   ` Duncan
2015-11-10 12:13     ` Austin S Hemmelgarn [this message]
2015-11-13 10:17       ` Anand Jain
2015-11-13 12:25         ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-11-15 18:10         ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2015-11-12  2:15 ` Qu Wenruo
2015-11-12  6:46   ` Duncan
2015-11-12 13:04   ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-11-13  1:07     ` Qu Wenruo
2015-11-13 10:20       ` Anand Jain
2015-11-14  0:54         ` Qu Wenruo
2015-11-16 13:39           ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-11-12 19:08   ` Goffredo Baroncelli
2015-11-13 10:18   ` Anand Jain
2015-11-12 19:21 ` Goffredo Baroncelli
2015-11-13 10:20   ` Anand Jain
2015-11-14 11:05     ` Goffredo Baroncelli
2015-11-16 13:41 ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-11-16 22:07   ` Anand Jain
2015-11-17 12:28     ` Austin S Hemmelgarn

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