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From: Anand Jain <anand.jain@oracle.com>
To: Qu Wenruo <quwenruo@cn.fujitsu.com>,
	Qu Wenruo <quwenruo.btrfs@gmx.com>,
	linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org
Cc: dsterba@suse.cz, calestyo@scientia.net, ahferroin7@gmail.com,
	1i5t5.duncan@cox.net
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/7] Let user specify the kernel version for features
Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2015 16:41:38 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <56581742.9030308@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5657A757.90909@cn.fujitsu.com>





> I meant, it can be done in packaging level and it's much easier to do.

  Its all about trade off, and there is no right or wrong, so is tough
  to arrive at a conclusion even before this was implemented. Below are
  the choices considered, now putting in the order of least suitable
  to most suitable after reviewing their advantages and disadvantages.

  . Update default features at the compile time, so to have a define
    set for the default choices per release/distro. (not sure how to
    do that), But with this, you can not solve the problem for which
    current "-O comp=" is provided (i.e to provide features which are
    compatible across a set of known kernels). And mainly, you are
    letting the control of such a discussion out of btrfs/mainline.
    Then distros will have own set of default features instead of having
    such an effort discussed and converged at the mainline.

  . /etc/btrfs.conf file to hold the default features (same as ext4)
    I have to drop this idea since from the user point of view you are
    creating another source of config/input that user/distro has to
    care about.

  . Do it at run time for the running kernel. Current. In the order of
    priority .. check sysfs, if not check kernel-version, if not use
    progs-version-based-defaults (original).


> And it's much predictable than version based detection.

  I think you mean to say its not predictable because it follows
  a priority list, and we won't know which system used sysfs/version/
  progs-version. Concern is valid. But I feel its trivial, unless
  you have some strong reason. Further still its only a trade off that
  could achieve.

  Other concern that others commented..

  if sysfs is not there and feature is backported, for this we should
  ensure sysfs feature is also backported along with the feature it
  self, without that feature back port is incomplete. If distro does not
  want to backport sysfs, the other choice that disto has is to update
  the feature-to-version table in the progs.

  For the system which does not provide version at all, it will fail
  back to the original progs-version-based-defaults.


  Hope I have captured all the concerns and addressed them.


Thanks, Anand



  reply	other threads:[~2015-11-27  8:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-11-25 12:08 [PATCH 0/7] Let user specify the kernel version for features Anand Jain
2015-11-25 12:08 ` [PATCH 1/7] btrfs-progs: show the version for -O list-all Anand Jain
2015-11-25 12:08 ` [PATCH 2/7] btrfs-progs: add kernel alias for each of the features in the list Anand Jain
2015-11-25 13:36   ` [PATCH V1.1 " Anand Jain
2015-11-25 18:11   ` [PATCH " Liu Bo
2015-11-25 22:52     ` Anand Jain
2015-11-25 12:08 ` [PATCH 3/7] btrfs-progs: make is_numerical non static Anand Jain
2015-11-25 12:08 ` [PATCH 4/7] btrfs-progs: check for numerical in version_to_code() Anand Jain
2015-11-25 12:08 ` [PATCH 5/7] btrfs-progs: introduce framework version to features Anand Jain
2015-11-25 12:08 ` [PATCH 6/7] btrfs-progs: add -O comp= option for mkfs.btrfs Anand Jain
2015-11-25 12:08 ` [PATCH 7/7] btrfs-progs: add -O comp= option for btrfs-convert Anand Jain
2015-11-26  2:02 ` [PATCH 0/7] Let user specify the kernel version for features Qu Wenruo
2015-11-26  6:07   ` Anand Jain
2015-11-26  6:53     ` Qu Wenruo
2015-11-26 11:18       ` Anand Jain
2015-11-26 12:31         ` Qu Wenruo
2015-11-26 22:17           ` Anand Jain
2015-11-27  0:44             ` Qu Wenruo
2015-11-27  8:41               ` Anand Jain [this message]
2015-11-29  1:21                 ` Qu Wenruo
2015-11-30  4:54                   ` Anand Jain
2015-11-30  5:46                     ` Qu Wenruo
2016-02-03 10:50                       ` David Sterba
2016-02-04  1:12                         ` Qu Wenruo
2016-02-04  1:42                         ` Chris Mason
2015-11-30  5:44       ` potential btrfs-progs clean up Anand Jain
2015-11-30  6:12         ` Qu Wenruo

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