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From: Goffredo Baroncelli <kreijack@inwind.it>
To: Donald Pearson <donaldwhpearson@gmail.com>,
	Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net>
Cc: Btrfs BTRFS <linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Loss of connection to Half of the drives
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2015 19:20:32 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <567AE5F0.6060005@inwind.it> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAC=t97BW6vYgi7edM=PknJDep9nJxDbOYpgPKi6L2u-J3hMwqQ@mail.gmail.com>

On 2015-12-23 16:53, Donald Pearson wrote:
[...]
> 
> Additionally real Raid10 will run circles around what BTRFS is doing
> in terms of performance.  In the 20 drive array you're striping across
> 10 drives, in BTRFS right now you're striping across 2 no matter what.
> So not only do I lose in terms of resilience I lose in terms of
> performance.  I assume that N-way-mirroring used with BTRFS Raid10
> will also increase the stripe width so that will level out the
> performance but you're always going to be short a drive for equal
> resilience.

In case of RAID10,on the best of my knowledge, BTRFS allocate each CHUNK across *all* the available devices. It uses the usual RAID0 (==striping) over a RAID1 (mirroring).

What you are describing is the BTRFS RAID1; i.e. LINEAR over a RAID1:each chunk is allocated in *two*, only *two* different disks from the disks pool; the disks are the ones with the largest free space. Each chunk may be allocated on a different *pair* of disks.

> And finally the elephant in the room that comes with the necessary
> 11-way mirroring is that the usable capacity of that 20 drive array.
> Remember, pea brain so my math may be wrong in application and
> calculation but if it's made of 1T drives for 20T raw, there is only
> 1.82T usable (20 / 11) and if I'm completely off in that figure the
> point is still that such a high level of mirroring is going to
> excessively consume drive space.

Ducan talked about a N-way mirroring, where each disks contains a copy of the same data. Nobody talked about N-way mirroring where N is less than the number of the available disks.

To be honest in the past appeared some patches to implement a generalized RAID-NxM raid, where N are the total disk, M are the redundancy disks: i.e. the filesystem could allow a drop of M disks (see http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-btrfs/msg29245.html).

BR
G.Baroncelli


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  reply	other threads:[~2015-12-23 18:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-12-22 19:12 Loss of connection to Half of the drives Dave S
2015-12-22 20:02 ` Chris Murphy
2015-12-22 23:56   ` Donald Pearson
2015-12-23  4:13     ` Duncan
2015-12-23 15:53       ` Donald Pearson
2015-12-23 18:20         ` Goffredo Baroncelli [this message]
2015-12-23 22:15           ` Donald Pearson
2015-12-23 23:13             ` Chris Murphy
2015-12-24  1:29           ` Duncan
2015-12-24  1:21         ` Duncan
2015-12-24 16:19           ` Donald Pearson
2015-12-24 20:57             ` Chris Murphy
2015-12-25  0:23               ` Duncan
2015-12-26  6:12                 ` David Schulz
2015-12-26 18:49                   ` Chris Murphy

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