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From: Qu Wenruo <quwenruo@cn.fujitsu.com>
To: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net>, <linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Why is dedup inline, not delayed (as opposed to offline)? Explain like I'm five pls.
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2016 11:16:11 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <569C58FB.70407@cn.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <pan$9ea8b$cdf4a5be$a6b3ced0$e73fd4ce@cox.net>



Duncan wrote on 2016/01/18 03:10 +0000:
> Qu Wenruo posted on Mon, 18 Jan 2016 09:36:49 +0800 as excerpted:
>
>>> dedup'ing data immediately when written to high-write-count data is
>>> counter productive because no sooner has it been deduped then it is
>>> rendered obsolete by another COW write.
>>
>> And it seems that you are not familiar how kernel is caching data for
>> filesystem.
>> There is already kernel page cache for such case.
>> No matter how many times you write, as long as you're doing buffered
>> write the the data is not written to disk but cached by kernel, until
>> either you triggered a manual sync or memory pressure hits threshold.
>
> Not contradicting in general, but checking my own understanding here...
>
> Doesn't the kernel write cache get synced by timeout as well as memory
> pressure and manual sync, with the timeouts found in
> /proc/sys/vm/dirty_*_centisecs, with defaults of 5 seconds background and
> 30 seconds higher priority foreground expiry?
>
> Regardless, I agree, the kernel page-cache seriously mitigates the stated
> concerns.
>
Yep, I forgot timeout. It can also be specified by per fs mount option 
"commit=".

But I never /proc/sys/vm/dirty_* interface before... I'd better check 
the code or add some debug pr_info to learn such behavior.

Thanks for pointing out this,
Qu



  reply	other threads:[~2016-01-18  3:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-01-16 12:27 Why is dedup inline, not delayed (as opposed to offline)? Explain like I'm five pls Al
2016-01-16 14:10 ` Duncan
2016-01-16 18:07   ` Rich Freeman
2016-01-18 12:23     ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2016-01-23 22:22       ` Mark Fasheh
2016-01-20 14:49     ` Al
2016-01-20 14:43   ` Al
2016-01-21  8:23     ` Qu Wenruo
2016-01-21 14:53       ` Al
2016-01-21 17:23         ` Chris Murphy
2016-01-22 11:33           ` Al
2016-01-23  2:44             ` Chris Murphy
2016-02-02  2:55             ` Qu Wenruo
2016-01-18  1:36 ` Qu Wenruo
2016-01-18  3:10   ` Duncan
2016-01-18  3:16     ` Qu Wenruo [this message]
2016-01-18  3:51       ` Duncan
2016-01-18 12:48         ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2016-01-19  8:30           ` Duncan
2016-01-19  9:14             ` Duncan
2016-01-19 12:28               ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2016-01-19 15:40                 ` Duncan
2016-01-20  8:32                 ` Brendan Hide
2016-01-19 12:21             ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2016-01-20 15:12               ` Al
2016-01-20 18:21                 ` Duncan
2016-01-20 14:53   ` Al

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