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From: Anand Jain <anand.jain@oracle.com>
To: Moviuro <moviuro@gmail.com>, linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: btrfs-progs and btrfs(8) inconsistencies
Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2016 11:11:56 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <56B412FC.8060007@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAM=f9=V-7hbjGLzWUxbynsoJdP-NexEoaTJ3GJJxn3gBYsW1BA@mail.gmail.com>



  If you look critically we have been using UI/CLI as API,
  IMO these two class of interfaces be distinct clearly.

  Btrfs needs library functions/APIs which is callable in
  popular scripting language like python.

Thanks, Anand


On 02/04/2016 05:54 AM, Moviuro wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I should have done this a long time ago, so here goes.
>
> Btrfs is certainly the best FS out there but btrfs(8) is a pain to use in
> scripts. That is, it talks way too much, exposes unparseable outputs and
> has inconsistent behavior.
>
> I strongly believe that the CLI may use a complete revamp, that is: think
> of the needed/wanted output. I actually ran into this frustrating behavior
> while writing butter (https://github.com/moviuro/butter).
>
> Eg: # btrfs subvolume create foo
> Should be silent. I don't want btrfs(8) to bug me about successful
> commands. Everything that is a success is silent. In its current form,
> btrfs-subvolume(8) would spat out a complete sentence in English that we
> don't need, which however contains a tiny bit of useful info: the path
> (though relative) to the new subvolume. A -v/--verbose option might be here
> a good idea to implement and the following behavior (just thinking out
> loud, I'm sure there would be lots of things to think about more precisely):
>
> # btrfs subvolume create foo # should be silent
> # btrfs subvolume create -v foo
> /absolute/path/foo
> # btrfs subvolume create [--details|-vv] foo
> PATH:/absolute/path/foo
> UUID:082df386-98c2-44d9-9012-07fb2b22ea20
> [And whatnot]
>
> That's a first example. Same should go for all the commands. I have no idea
> how/where we could share about good/bad outputs (Google Drive? Framapad?
> git[hub|lab]?)
>
> Then come inconsistencies: compare the outputs of
> # btrfs sub create foo
> # btrfs sub delete foo
>
> This also needs to be taken care of, but it should be a by-product of
> thinking the outputs all over again.
>
> Behavior inconsistencies: some seemingly valid commands fail, because of
> some code that can be easily changed (I'm working on it in my spare time
> already, see https://github.com/moviuro/btrfs-progs/tree/getopts):
>
> The valid '--' doesn't work on every command, see
> 0aa796cad7ed3fce9d5964646a8f1f5a142b4989 here:
> https://github.com/kdave/btrfs-progs/commit/0aa796cad7ed3fce9d5964646a8f1f5a142b4989
>
>
> That's it. And since AFAICT btrfs is FLOSS, I'm sharing about my experience
> as user and hope my opinion will change btrfs(8) for the better.
>
> Cheers,
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-02-05  3:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-02-03 21:54 btrfs-progs and btrfs(8) inconsistencies Moviuro
2016-02-04  1:33 ` Qu Wenruo
2016-02-04  8:57   ` Moviuro
2016-02-04  9:15     ` Qu Wenruo
2016-02-04 10:14     ` Martin Steigerwald
2016-02-04 12:04       ` Moviuro
2016-02-04 12:53       ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2016-02-04 19:40         ` Chris Murphy
2016-02-04 20:19           ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2016-02-04 20:40             ` Moviuro
2016-02-05 13:04               ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2016-02-04 17:17   ` Goffredo Baroncelli
2016-02-04 19:48     ` Hugo Mills
2016-02-04 20:10     ` Chris Murphy
2016-02-04 18:22 ` Chris Murphy
2016-02-05  3:11 ` Anand Jain [this message]
2016-02-05 12:59   ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2016-02-06 21:35   ` Chris Murphy
2016-02-07 10:07   ` Qu Wenruo
2016-02-07 20:26     ` Goffredo Baroncelli
2016-03-08 16:02 ` David Sterba
2016-03-09 10:02   ` Moviuro

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