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From: "Austin S. Hemmelgarn" <ahferroin7@gmail.com>
To: Chris Murphy <lists@colorremedies.com>,
	Martin Steigerwald <martin@lichtvoll.de>
Cc: Martin Steigerwald <martin.steigerwald@teamix.de>,
	Roman Mamedov <rm@romanrm.net>,
	Btrfs BTRFS <linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: degraded BTRFS RAID 1 not mountable: open_ctree failed, unable to find block group for 0
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2016 15:20:56 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5be14cba-943b-a622-b9af-394b76f2e650@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJCQCtQnSYRMUWb3V3Qn+chb2o18F5dgoy2mxPw8vqnohrErjQ@mail.gmail.com>

On 2016-11-17 15:05, Chris Murphy wrote:
> I think the wiki should be updated to reflect that raid1 and raid10
> are mostly OK. I think it's grossly misleading to consider either as
> green/OK when a single degraded read write mount creates single chunks
> that will then prevent a subsequent degraded read write mount. And
> also the lack of various notifications of device faultiness I think
> make it less than OK also. It's not in the "do not use" category but
> it should be in the middle ground status so users can make informed
> decisions.
>
It's worth pointing out also regarding this:
* This is handled sanely in recent kernels (the check got changed from 
per-fs to per-chunk, so you still have a usable FS if all the single 
chunks are only on devices you still have).
* This is only an issue with filesystems with exactly two disks.  If a 
3+ disk raid1 FS goes degraded, you still generate raid1 chunks.
* There are a couple of other cases where raid1 mode falls flat on it's 
face (lots of I/O errors in a short span of time with compression 
enabled can cause a kernel panic for example).
* raid10 has some other issues of it's own (you lose two devices, your 
filesystem is dead, which shouldn't be the case 100% of the time (if you 
lose different parts of each mirror, BTRFS _should_ be able to recover, 
it just doesn't do so right now)).

As far as the failed device handling issues, those are a problem with 
BTRFS in general, not just raid1 and raid10, so I wouldn't count those 
against raid1 and raid10.


  reply	other threads:[~2016-11-17 20:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-11-16 10:25 degraded BTRFS RAID 1 not mountable: open_ctree failed, unable to find block group for 0 Martin Steigerwald
2016-11-16 10:43 ` Roman Mamedov
2016-11-16 10:55   ` Martin Steigerwald
2016-11-16 11:00     ` Roman Mamedov
2016-11-16 11:04       ` Martin Steigerwald
2016-11-16 12:57         ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2016-11-16 17:06           ` Martin Steigerwald
2016-11-17 20:05             ` Chris Murphy
2016-11-17 20:20               ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn [this message]
2016-11-19 20:27                 ` Chris Murphy
2016-11-20 11:58                 ` Niccolò Belli
2016-11-17 20:46               ` Martin Steigerwald
2016-11-16 11:18     ` Martin Steigerwald
2016-11-16 12:48     ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2017-08-22  9:31 g6094199
2017-08-22 10:28 ` Dmitrii Tcvetkov
2017-08-23 13:12 g6094199

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