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From: Qu Wenruo <quwenruo.btrfs@gmx.com>
To: Hugo Mills <hugo@carfax.org.uk>, Marat Khalili <mkh@rqc.ru>,
	Nikolay Borisov <nborisov@suse.com>,
	"Misono, Tomohiro" <misono.tomohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] btrfs-progs: subvolume: outputs message only when operation succeeds
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2017 16:08:57 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5f24c41c-bc22-0821-b807-e73869116b84@gmx.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7a345608-6c5d-bdc9-9b5f-74a8052ea228@gmx.com>



On 2017年09月25日 16:04, Qu Wenruo wrote:
> 
> 
> On 2017年09月25日 15:52, Hugo Mills wrote:
>> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 03:46:15PM +0800, Qu Wenruo wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2017年09月25日 15:42, Marat Khalili wrote:
>>>> On 25/09/17 10:30, Nikolay Borisov wrote:
>>>>> On 19.09.2017 10:41, Misono, Tomohiro wrote:
>>>>>> "btrfs subvolume create/delete" outputs the message of "Create/Delete
>>>>>> subvolume ..." even when an operation fails.
>>>>>> Since it is confusing, let's outputs the message only when an
>>>>>> operation succeeds.
>>>>> Please change the verb to past tense, more strongly signaling 
>>>>> success -
>>>>> i.e. "Created subvolume"
>>>> What about recalling some UNIX standards and returning to NOT
>>>> outputting any message when operation succeeds? My scripts are
>>>> full of grep -v calls after each btrfs command, and this sucks
>>>> (and I don't think I'm alone in this situation).
>>>
>>> Isn't the correct way to catch the return value instead of grepping
>>> the output?
>>
>>     It is, but if, for example, you're using the command in a cron
>> script which is expected to work, you don't want it producing output
>> because then you get a mail every time the script runs. So you have to
>> grep -v on the "success" output to make the successful script silent.
> 
> What about redirecting stdout to /dev/null and redirecting stderr to 
> mail if return value is not 0?
s/if return value is not 0/if return value is 0/.

The main point is, if btrfs returns 0, then nothing to worry about.
(Unless there is a bug, even in that case keep an eye on stderr should 
be enough to catch that)

Thanks,
Qu
> As for expected-to-work case, the stdout doesn't has much meaning and 
> return value should be good enough to judge the result.
> 
>>
>>> If it's some command not returning value properly, would you please
>>> report it as a bug so we can fix it.
>>
>>     It's not the return value that's problematic (although those used
>> to be a real mess). It's the fact that a successful run of the command
>> produces noise on stdout, which most commands don't.
> 
> Yes, a lot of tried-and-true tools don't output anything for successful 
> run, but also a lot of other tools do output something by default, 
> especially for complex tools like LVM.
> 
> Maybe we can introduce a global --quite option to silent some output.
> 
> Thanks,
> Qu
>>
>>     Hugo.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Qu
>>>
>>>> If you change the message a lot of scripts will have to be
>>>> changed, at least make it worth it.
>>>>
>>>>   --
>>>>
>>>> With Best Regards,
>>>> Marat Khaliili
>>>>
>>

  reply	other threads:[~2017-09-25  8:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-09-19  7:41 [PATCH] btrfs-progs: subvolume: outputs message only when operation succeeds Misono, Tomohiro
2017-09-20  2:32 ` Satoru Takeuchi
2017-09-25  7:30 ` Nikolay Borisov
2017-09-25  7:42   ` Marat Khalili
2017-09-25  7:43     ` Hugo Mills
2017-09-25  7:46     ` Qu Wenruo
2017-09-25  7:52       ` Hugo Mills
2017-09-25  8:04         ` Qu Wenruo
2017-09-25  8:08           ` Qu Wenruo [this message]
2017-09-25  9:27             ` Marat Khalili
2017-09-25 14:19           ` Hugo Mills
2017-09-25 14:33             ` Qu Wenruo
2017-09-25 15:17               ` Marat Khalili
2017-09-25 16:11                 ` Wrong device? linux-btrfs
2017-09-26  7:31                   ` Lukas Pirl
2017-09-27 14:06                     ` Andrei Borzenkov
2017-09-26  8:06                   ` Duncan
2017-09-27  8:26                     ` Ari Saastamoinen
2017-09-25  9:11         ` [PATCH] btrfs-progs: subvolume: outputs message only when operation succeeds Marat Khalili

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