Re: Is stability a joke?

[Martin Steigerwald <martin@lichtvoll.de>]

Am Sonntag, 11. September 2016, 13:02:21 CEST schrieb Hugo Mills:
> On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 02:39:14PM +0200, Waxhead wrote:
> > Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> > >Am Sonntag, 11. September 2016, 13:43:59 CEST schrieb Martin Steigerwald:
> > >>>>Thing is: This just seems to be when has a feature been implemented
> > >>>>matrix.
> > >>>>Not when it is considered to be stable. I think this could be done
> > >>>>with
> > >>>>colors or so. Like red for not supported, yellow for implemented and
> > >>>>green for production ready.
> > >>>
> > >>>Exactly, just like the Nouveau matrix. It clearly shows what you can
> > >>>expect from it.
> > >
> > >I mentioned this matrix as a good *starting* point. And I think it would
> > >be
> > >easy to extent it:
> > >
> > >Just add another column called "Production ready". Then research / ask
> > >about production stability of each feature. The only challenge is: Who
> > >is authoritative on that? I´d certainly ask the developer of a feature,
> > >but I´d also consider user reports to some extent.
> > >
> > >Maybe thats the real challenge.
> > >
> > >If you wish, I´d go through each feature there and give my own
> > >estimation. But I think there are others who are deeper into this.
> > 
> > That is exactly the same reason I don't edit the wiki myself. I
> > could of course get it started and hopefully someone will correct
> > what I write, but I feel that if I start this off I don't have deep
> > enough knowledge to do a proper start. Perhaps I will change my mind
> > about this.
> 
>    Given that nobody else has done it yet, what are the odds that
> someone else will step up to do it now? I would say that you should at
> least try. Yes, you don't have as much knowledge as some others, but
> if you keep working at it, you'll gain that knowledge. Yes, you'll
> probably get it wrong to start with, but you probably won't get it
> *very* wrong. You'll probably get it horribly wrong at some point, but
> even the more knowledgable people you're deferring to didn't identify
> the problems with parity RAID until Zygo and Austin and Chris (and
> others) put in the work to pin down the exact issues.
> 
>    So I'd strongly encourage you to set up and maintain the stability
> matrix yourself -- you have the motivation at least, and the knowledge
> will come with time and effort. Just keep reading the mailing list and
> IRC and bugzilla, and try to identify where you see lots of repeated
> problems, and where bugfixes in those areas happen.
> 
>    So, go for it. You have a lot to offer the community.

Yep! Fully agreed.

-- 
Martin